Redfrog, in response to you bitter post, if you'll read back, R Buker and several others includind bowjunkie, Radd 4, and Rich Higgins (who painted a bullseye for the pros) said that the answer was traps, if the coyotes were not callable. I posted several reasons that traps and snares were not feasable. Isn't this some of the "information" that we are supposed to be sharing? Seems like people only want this "information" if it agrees with their pre-concieved notions. There are only a certain amount of tools available to an ADC person and when one is lost to use during a time when it is needed it will cause a defensive reaction. They all have their place and time for use. The plane or helicopter is another great tool, but they also have limits, many of the sheep herds are in the mountains for the summer, and high elevations, rough country, and high temeratures don't go well together. So all tools are limited in effectiveness, but calling and denning summertimes coyotes works in all terrain and near the sheep without colateral damage. Sheep people don't like it if you snare or trap one of their dogs or sheep. As a trapper you should know that in 80 and 90 degreee heat any animal will not last more than a few hours. Pyranese (sp) dogs don't do well in traps any time of year, they apparently don't take stress well and rarely survive any trapping incident. These are things that some people may or may not know, but it is some more information that ADC people learn the hard way sometimes.
I didn't see Fish's posts that got deleted, but the only reason he came here to begin with was to correct some mis-information. I doubt seriously if he will be back, since he can't defend himself without being deleted. cmidddleton had originally posted about how many coyotes had been killed by aerial gunning, himself, and others on a particular ranch. Fish corrected him, basically telling everyone that middleton didn't know what he was talking about. Fish should know since he is the only one to do any aerial hunting in that area. Then in later days Fish went back to the same area and took another den, and guess what, when he asked the particualr ranchers what middleton had done, they didn't know who he was! Are you starting to see a pattern here? Do you see a reason someone would be a little defensive? I don't know Mr. Middleton, but I do know Fish well, I have worked for him for several years, and one thing for certain, he isn't a liar or braggart. But he is factual in what he does and many people don't like it. If someone is posting known misinformation as Mr. Middleton did, is there no recourse to correct it without being thought of badly and having your posts deleted? I think Redfrog doing this was a gross misuse of power.