Fahrenheit 7-11....anybody gonna see it ?

And....someday if you do not plan for your future now..you will be on the list of those that some of us are supporting!

Weed and others had better pay attention here. :eek: There's a lesson to be learned.Granted it's an old outdated one, but a lesson none the less.

Here's the new improved version.

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The Original Version..

The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

The New Liberal Version...

It starts out the same but when winter comes the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, and ABC show up and show pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to film of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be, in a country of such wealth that this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association of Green Bugs) shows up on Night Line and charges the ant with "Green Bias" and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism. Kermit the frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green."

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the summer, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures Of The 80's".

Finally the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act" RECTRO-ACTIVE to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and having nothing left to pay his Retro-Active taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he's in....which just happens to be the ant's old house.... crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV; which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, Bill Clinton is standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats announcing that a new era of "Fairness" has dawned in America.

THE END

The lesson to be learned is???????

If you don't listen to "Our Jane" you run a definite risk in becoming a .........Liberal. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
DOD: I believe that the protection of our country is numbero uno and I will most likely vote for the person who has solutions..not rhetoric as I have ONLY heard from Kerry. I could not agree more with the assessment that you made there. I am *only* bringing out the fact that what you often hear is not always what you get. Medications are something dear to my heart...but NOT something that will change my vote because I do not think ANYONE has come up with a viable solution. If *I* had one I would be telling someone FOR SURE! I just think putting bandaids on is not the answer...it was only bait for votes in my opinion. The MAIN complaint I have with Bush is his telling me WHERE to buy them. I am SURE that the new Medicare bill will do the same. I could be wrong...but I will bet that when it is out it will be nothing more than the HMOs and PPOs that many deal with now. Where lay people make decisions about what tests and procedures are *necessary*. They have taken rights away from doctors...and the doctors who go along with them get rewarded financially. HEH...you tell me about how THAT is safe!!

I believe in paying fair prices for those of you who think not...once again....call the pharmacies like I said. Then you will find out what I am talking about....ok...so people can sell them for what they want to...I CAN BUY FROM WHOM I PLEASE. If the medicine is cheaper in another country...does it NOT make you wonder WHY?????? I find it sort of perplexing and that is an understatement for sure.

JRB: your remarks to be perfectly honest surprised me....but I suppose based on past history here they should not have. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I would take that kid from the tee off ANYDAY. Actually I did. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Did I complain about gas prices? I must have forgotten if so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

You are *assuming* again dear. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I think I might stop the Lithium and give it to you all full blast...roflmao!!!

OOPSS I forgot Redfrog....yes it is an oldie..but also very true. And yes the bleeding hearts play right into the people's hands who do NOT prepare. WHY do they not prepare? Because we are STUPID as a country. Welfare was SUPPOSED to be for people in dire straits. Sheesh...now all the special interest groups do is protect and encourage those beggars. Sorry...but anyone who does NOT prepare for his/her future in MY opinion is just waiting for the handout. And...let me tell you this. Social security will NOT allow you to live comfortably...even IF your medication is covered. If I had my way I would say do away with it and let people invest their money as they see fit..only problem is..they would be FLAT broke and begging for SURE.

OH MY...off the beaten track again....I SAW THE MOVIE FOR FREE. END of THAT story. I will not give my opinion of it here...I think everyone owes it to his/herself to see it IF he/she is going to comment on it!!!!!

Someone should start a new thread for these other issues..haha!
 
In Jerry Lewis Fashion, Hey Ladyyyyyy If I were say in the fruit, and vegetable business,(after all everyone eats fruits, and vegetables, right?) and lets say I do it on a somewhat large scale. Maybe in the form of a corporation, complete with nice, air conditioned stores, with all the expenses that incur a corporation doing business today. Now my competition is a guy with a wooden cart that squats on the street corner in front of my nicest store. He he chooses to sell his produce for less money in that he has less, or no operating expense to speak of. Should the Goverment make me price my produce at his prices? Same question can apply to any other business, if it makes you more comfortable. A few other quick questions for you. If our Government said, "hey go ahead and buy controlled substances, from a Country, and System that we have no Control of" Would it still be a controlled substance? If Our Government opened a loop hole on controlled substances laws, what do you suppose would happen? Would some people buy other controlled substances from other countries? Would it be detrimental to our country? Please go into deeper detail of the System that only you understand, for the benefit of all of us. Last question. Would you please explain how to fix our health care system?
 
Jane buys her fruit from some limpwristed frenchy in Quebec that doesn't have overhead or FDA to worry about. What kind of cart does he have? He doesn't even need one.... all he needs is a website and can even jump through tax hoops by not having a physical location. He can hire highschool dropouts to count and package the fruit then ship them out without any OSHA investigations. He runs an online warehouse for fruits that may be out of date, unsafe or rejected but CHEAP fruit non-the-less. Not to mention, it would be unsupportive of NAFTA to buy fruit in the USA. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif BiPolar fits so well.
 
Controlled substances?????? First of all I do NOT take them....second of all this pharmacy does not sell them and ship them out of their country!!!! This is NOT one of those illegal sham things you find on the internet! You must be like the doctor I talked about in a previous post who believes the propoganda that has been fed to us regarding this issue. I worked in the health care field..I surely KNOW about the medications I am putting in my mouth! sheesh

OH..and I have to periodically complete a questionaire..and I HAVE to have a prescription from a licensed physician. I do NOT deal with a fly by night operation that does a review online and then sends you whatever you want!

And...IF I had an answer about the mess our health care system is in, I would be the first in line to offer it up. I just think that telling me where to buy my meds is ridiculous...(about as ridiculous as telling me where to buy fruits and vegetables...hah!) That is just some more of your button pushing rhetoric to avoid discussing what you know nothing about!!!!!! These are the SAME meds that are sold in THIS COUNTRY. Do you think they are NOT FDA approved? Haha..that is where you are left in the dark because we are *not supposed* to know that they are the SAME medications from the SAME manufacturers. Did you know that the drug manufacturers have even threatened to reduce the supply to Canadian pharmacies if they continue to sell to people in the US?? I used to think like all of you until I did more research on this topic. Heck..you all do not pay...so what do YOU know about the costs...I hope you never have to pay. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So...OK..they say I have too much money to get a break. I can live with that because I can pay. (I DO however find it a bit unfair that I worked my rear off to get what I have and people who did not plan properly will get all the breaks.) It only perpetuates people's dependence on our government to fix all of their problems. I am actually quite surprised that none of you see that...unless you are in the group and just spouting all this conservative rhetoric! BUT...can you imagine that if you are on unemployment you are MAKING TOO MUCH MONEY for a break?!?!?!?!? Come on guys...get real. Wake up, smell the coffee, and thank your Heavenly Father that it is not happening to you as it obviously is NOT!
 
hahahhahahahha
Hoosierdaddy are you going to fatten this person's pockets?
http://www.cafeshops.com/mmhashop
At least you can d/l the movie and watch it for nothing! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

This film has brought out a lot of stuff...kind of amusing if you think about it. I hear there are more *documentaries* in the works.
 
I see everyone's been having fun while I was gone /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

A few random thoughts relating to this thread:

The biggest problems our health care industry and costs suffer are a direct consequence of govt interferance in these industries. Is the solution really yet *more* interferance?

I have found no part of the constitution that empowers the federal govet to meddle with the private sector pharmecutecal industry. So exactly how, in a constitutional manner, is the federal govt supposed to control these prices?

Similarly, I find nothing that empowers the president in this area. How, precisely, is Bush supposed to "fix" this problem?

My father in law, quite possibly the most ignorant democrat in the state of TN, is elderly, disabled and retired. This weekend he complained about the cost of medicine. I asked him if he had gotten into the new program. He replied No, it wouldn't help him as it didn't pay until he spends $1000 for the year. He then told told me that he spends $2400 per year. But was unable to explain why getting assitance through the new program that he is not using would not help him with the $1400 beyond the base, since at present he is getting no assistance.

I don't need to see Moore's film to have an opinion. To see it, even for free, I must invest a part of my life, and Moore is not worth that. However, Moore has a history and I know what it is. I do not need to stick my hand to a hot burner to know that it can burn me. Similarly, I do not need to see the garbage to know that it is, indeed, garbage. Truly, what should I be expected to learn? That a known fraud and liar has delivered yet another powerful attempt to defraud and lie to me? I already know that.

Bipolar politics is clearly a phrase worth noting. It should be widely used until it becomes part of our common parlance in such discussing throughout America.
 
I thought I had shot most of your credibility when I made you confess that you were exagerating this program being rolled out and that it is failing. You had to eat several words at the beginning of this thing... have you forgotten?

This "research" you are doing is selling you short... of corse they are the same medications. Are they stored properly? Do they incur the same overhead costs to keep the medications untampered and safe for consumption because the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is breathing down their neck? And you said yourself that you understand that drug companies aren't concerned.. its the pharmacys so now why would drug companies be threatening canada? OTHER than the fact the US GOVT is squeezing everyone to abide by the law. (Including BiPolar Politicians from Texas)

The medicines have to be FDA approved to go in a box... remember when I told you my mother-in-law was sitting with me the other night? Thats when all the medical talk stopped. Now its fired up again. You can probably outwit the average guy with geekspeek about the medical field but you better not claim it on research because we'll ask for URL's.

And you say " I find it unfair ", well tough **** . The fair comes to town once a year and it ain't this week honey. The fact that I'm paying for some overweight, chain smoking alchohalic's healthcare at work is UNFAIR enough... I don't need my paycheck to be sqeezed even yarder so that you can save on viagra ( Through your govt regulation of medicinal prices ) and afford more time in the hair salon for that pooch of yours.

WHEW, that was all pretty harsh... I tried to wait on WEED to get in here first but I couldn't contain myself any longer. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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And you say " I find it unfair ", well tough **** . The fair comes to town once a year and it ain't this week honey. The fact that I'm paying for some overweight, chain smoking alchohalic's healthcare at work is UNFAIR enough... I don't need my paycheck to be sqeezed even yarder so that you can save on viagra ( Through your govt regulation of medicinal prices ) and afford more time in the hair salon for that pooch of yours.
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WTF takes viagra? Only Bob Dole that I know of..and he is paid handsomely for advertising it. HAHA

And...if you do not like paying for that chain smoking alcoholic's healthcare..think about this!
YOU ARE ALSO PAYING FOR HIS MEDICATION which is EXACTLY what I have said all along. I think it is ridiculous that I don't *fit* their program..but then again in some ways I DO understand..but come ON .. a guy on unemployment?!?!?!?!!? You just take what you want out of text and run with it and IGNORE the deepest parts.

AS FOR MY *POOCH* I am beginning to think you harbor some jealousy over the fact that I CAN afford such things.

I am SIMPLY stating fact..people in this country are being ripped ROYAL..not to mention being LIED to.

But, I am finished telling you because as far as I am concerned YOU need to find out for yourself. You want urls..hahah that is even MORE laughable coming from a person who mistrusts the media..do you believe EVERYTHING you read online? hahahhahahahahhahhahha I am DONE. This thread has become a waste. I am NOT ducking and running..just tired of talking with a brick wall. You need to read MORE if you ask me..or make some phone calls. Do something besides spout the rhetoric that has been fed to you. The meds in Canada are perfectly safe...hahah I am STILL here after all this time aggravating you!

I SAW THE MOVIE....SOME THOUGHT PROVOKING THINGS IN IT. SOME BS. That is ALL I have to say regarding this topic! Been fun! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Although this is obvious...

The Viagra was an example that people that recieve this assistance can use it on things that wouldn't necessarily kill them. We're paying for medications for ignorant and frankly unneccesary reasons! And you using the word "EXACTLY" is like Clinton using the word "Sexual Relations"... Define Exactly.

"IGNORE the deepest parts" IF anything you have said in this forum could be classified as "deep" then we've all missed it. Getting too deep in a subject prevents the flipflopping so easily... you've pretty much stayed on the surface, chopping around like a good buzz bait.

Your pooch is strictly entertainment value for me... no jealousy involved. I spend thousands of dollars a year to kill animals, no reason you should pay that much to save them.

"You want urls.. the media.." Now thats interesting that you would think URLS would be media outlets, I was just sure you had some medical research facility on the toolbar. URLS aren't limited to CBS & NBC (which I know how to read, not necessarily mistrust) Ask me about guns, racecars or hunting and I can provide you URLS.... none of them being biased media outlets. I would've thought you'd be the same with the medical field. Its a shame you're done with this thread... Weed is going to kill me for scaring you off before he got to reply to you! And yes... I said scare. haha /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
*ROLLS EYES*

Watch the movie dear and draw your OWN conclusions.!!! haha

Or does that *scare* you? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
*Quote* I worked in the health care field..I surely KNOW about the medications I am putting in my mouth! sheesh *End Quote*

As a health care worker, you certainly know that ALL prescription drugs are Controlled Substances in the United States.

*Quote* Controlled substances?????? First of all I do NOT take them *End Quote*

Are you to now have us believe that you buy prescription drugs, from Canadian pharmacys as a hobby, and not for personal use? I give up. It is obvious you can not support your drivel with anything else but more drivel. I'm really sorry that you feel picked on, and that your getting *your* button pushed so often, but because I said so doesn't cut it around here. Please also spare us all any more of the, "You guys just don't understand" routine. Believe me when I say, "we all understand what it is that you want." Best of luck with it.
 
OK Mr. I KNOW IT ALL

I said I would not..but you have MADE me.
FIRST of all you do NOT know what a controlled substance IS and you sure as heck do not know what I want OR what I am about.

Since you all want a URL...you MIGHT believe this one! hahaha but I seriously doubt it!! AND...if you go there...click on the edit button..then on the find button...THEN type in the word antibiotic and SEE IF YOU FIND THAT *CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE*

I remain on the floor now for sure laughing my a$$ off at this!!!
 
Ohhhh I got it. You are correct. Antibiotics are not a lock and key controlled substance, as some other drugs...However if you need a prescription to buy a drug, it is controlled. Very similar to buying certain chemicals....Controlled, Explosives....Controlled, Certain Firearms...Controlled. Need I go on? Mr know it all...lol I made no such claim, However I do recognize drivel when I read it.
 
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