Originally Posted By: swampwalkerI don't agree with Fursniper. Using the Bible as a document of authority to defend your religion is the same lame tactic that the Muslims use with the Koran. The defense arguement usually starts with something like "In the beginning".
Text that disturbed goat herders wrote 2,000 years ago should hardly be seen as fact.
“See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”
"But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall put away the evil from among you."
These were sick, sick people folks. This is not to hard to figure out.
Again, showing a fundamental lack of understanding and context. Swampy, your outburst of insults are a clear indication of a lack of education when you pass judgement on things in history using today's corrupt standards. Your blindness to the leftist indoctrination you have espoused is disappointing. I would dare you to find a more peer reviewed and accepted "source" than the Bible, or any other theology text. (baring the Scientologists, i haven't read their stuff and wouldn't opine one way or another)
You two are really desperate to some how elevate your beliefs through the trashing of others. A violation of the TOS section 3 Mods. Yet haven't sited (in your words) anything that leads anyone to believe your opinion.
You two jumped in on this thread, and continue to insult the values of others. Others that have been fairly kind considering what you are up to. But, then that also shows their caring and compassion to try and talk to you about it and explain, only to see you insult them again, and again. DO YOU REALLY FEEL BETTER about yourselves after doing that? Does it really make you feel like a better friend to those you talk to? Is that really a value or behavior that you would want to teach to you kids? So far i haven't seen one thing you two have typed that i would share with my kids. I have seen patience and selfless actions of others to try and explain and talk to you. But, as the old saying goes, i cannot teach a man that has a cup that is already full. (meaning you can't learn if you unwilling to listen)
It's pathetic at best, and i used to have a higher opinion for you both.
Acting like a google warriors and pulling single phrases and sentences out of chapters doesn't tell the story of what is being taught. Had you taken the time to read that book, and the entirety of the chapter, you might be better off in your personal life having learned a moral lesson and not so bent on insulting the values of others. Stepping on others doesn't make you taller, it just shows the witnesses of your anger who you are.
And for two obviously angry people, you sure spend a lot of time reading the bible. At this rate, your going to convert yourselves. I guess there is a value in keeping it up, and adding another page to the thread, because without it, i don't think even your mothers could get you two to read this much scripture.
Keep it up, before long you two are going to be born again. I would suggest leaning toward Baptist. They sing the best, and have amazing picnics/pot lucks. The local congregation would be lucky to get Preston grilling.
May the spirit be with you both.
Oh, and i openly admit that i am not virtuous or moral. I don't go to church, I sin, and couldn't tell you the names in the bible. I haven't been to church in over a decade or more, other than a funeral or 20. I turned away from religion of all kinds after being in combat in Afghanistan. You can only dish out so much death before you start to question life. Only over time, and with the kindness of those (like here) will you see that you are just angry and insulting, despite that, they are loving and accepting. That is what will help you find happiness. (your not happy if you feel the need to insult others values for no other reason than to be that kid burning ants with a magnifying glass) I know, i was there. You will be there, as long as you are angry, and until you reflect internally. Hopefully it will change before we run out of pages allowed in a thread.(or it gets locked)