Originally Posted By: Outlawkyotejust because you can pull the trigger faster doesnt mean that you can kill more PDs in a day than a bolt gun. If you and I set up in a PD town. Me with my single shot bolt gun and you with your high capacity magazine rifle (empty from the start) by the end of the day we will shoot the same amount of ammo. You might be able to shoot faster bursts but you need to stop and reload while im steadily feeding a new round in on every shot. While your reloading magazines, I will be catching up with you on round count.
For shooting on a Pdog town, I'd rather NOT use an AR anyway, especially if your going to be there all day. You're probably correct about shooting the same number of rounds...but your correct for the wrong reason.
It's just a dumb comparison to say that you're starting with an empty gun. That's the point of a magazine fed rifle. Why would you take an empty mag to the field? When I head out, I usually have 30-40 rounds of WSSM ammo loaded up. The 223 shooters in our party have 50-100 rounds ready in mags.
You wouldn't be shooting non-stop all day anyway, but if you were, you'd both be reloading during times when the dogs are hiding anyway. For coyotes where rapid 2-5 shots are very important. Its futile to dispute the AR's superior rapid fire and high cap mag fed abilities.
1 or even 2 mags at a coyote hunting set, and you'll be good to go, depending on the rounds per mag. When you get back to the truck after a set, reload and do it all over again.
I don't think anyone is disputing the general accuracy of a box bolt gun, but AR's have come a long way in the last 5 years.
The beauty of the AR platform and where you save the most money is the caliber conversion uppers. Some people don't utilize this, and choose to buy a complete rifle for each caliber...but if you were to build one lower the way you want, and have 5 different caliber uppers (OR MORE). You'd have just about the same amount of $$ into it as 5 complete bolt action rifles. For AR's you only NEED one great lower receiver.
Originally Posted By: OutlawkyoteJust trying to defend against the statement that bolt guns can't shoot in the .2's without the major cost that was suggested here.
but...you didn't post any information to back it up. You said "a $300 gun, a $300 barrel and at lot of time tuning."
Does that mean all of your $600 bolt gun builds are shooting .2" at 100?