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#2456980 - 03/08/13 06:39 PM Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help!
AubreyD. Offline
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I have a model 7 predator in 22-250 that will not shoot even close to moa. With the price of ammo and lack there of any information would be appreciated. I have tried about 10 different kinds of ammo none over 55 grain with the 1:14 twist on the thing. This is the third Remington 22-250 that will not shoot. Best group is 3.5 inches strung horizontally. Has anyone else had this problem. I have checked the stock to see if it is hitting or touching the barrel all is fine and screws re torqued to specs. Please help!
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#2456986 - 03/08/13 06:47 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
afhunter1 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
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If your stringing them then you need to give it some speed. Get some reloads and push on them a little.

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#2456995 - 03/08/13 06:54 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
DBlairVA Offline
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Group stringing horizontally sounds like bad trigger squeeze to me. Have you adjusted the trigger down from factory specs? In my experience factory pull is usually around 5 or 6 pounds which is way to hard for good groups for me. Just my .02s worth.!
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#2457036 - 03/08/13 07:47 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
AubreyD. Offline
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Its not me. I shot my cz 527 with the trigger unset and shot 3 five shot groups well under .75 inches. Yes the trigger is set as low as it will go. I dont think its a speed thing either because I have shot some 36 grain and 40 grainers and was averaging around 4 to 4.5 inches all over.
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#2457042 - 03/08/13 07:53 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
Beluebow Offline
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Registered: 12/08/04
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What size groups do you shoot with other rifles? What size groups do you expect your rifle to shoot?To get THREE Rem22-250's that dont shoot is pretty crappy luck or something else is wrong.
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#2457052 - 03/08/13 08:04 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
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Originally Posted By: AubreyD.
I have a model 7 predator in 22-250 that will not shoot even close to moa. With the price of ammo and lack there of any information would be appreciated. I have tried about 10 different kinds of ammo none over 55 grain with the 1:14 twist on the thing. This is the third Remington 22-250 that will not shoot. Best group is 3.5 inches strung horizontally. Has anyone else had this problem. I have checked the stock to see if it is hitting or touching the barrel all is fine and screws re torqued to specs. Please help!




Couple things I had a question about.


Did all 10 different kinds of ammo string horizontal?

Is the scope a known shooter, and did you check the base and ring screws?
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#2457063 - 03/08/13 08:10 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
EJ Reichenbach Offline
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Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 2638
Loc: Montana
I would loosen the action screws up a little bit and see if the action kind of pops up, you have to do it slow and watch but if it moves up suddenly then you have a bind some where's and probably need to bed the action.

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#2457080 - 03/08/13 08:25 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
chunks7mm Offline
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Registered: 12/05/07
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nevermind


Edited by chunks7mm (03/08/13 08:27 PM)
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#2457085 - 03/08/13 08:30 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
afhunter1 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
Posts: 215
Loc: Bedford, PA
I've never had three remington rifles that wouldn't shoot let alone all three in the same caliber. Your luck sucks. Usually a trigger job, bedding and float the barrel and then they go under an inch with any rem bolt gun.

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#2457089 - 03/08/13 08:36 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
AubreyD. Offline
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Registered: 03/07/13
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Loc: Freestone county Texas
I am not saying I am the best off a bench but I can hold my own. With my .17 hornet I consistently shoot under 1/2 in my .223 is the same with the set trigger at 100 yards. The optic I have on it is a Zeiss Diavori with Leopold bases and millett rings. They have both been checked and are torqed to specs. No not all the groups are horizontal some are just all over. The best groups were strung horizontal. I have checked to see if the action is bound but isn't. I really want to like Remington's. I have given a few 700's as gifts and they all shot well. But the 3 22-250's i have had have been not great.
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#2457094 - 03/08/13 08:43 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
GC Offline
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I added a couple of oil soaked business card shims onto the pressure pad in the fore end and mine settled right down and became a very consistent shooter afterward.
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#2457095 - 03/08/13 08:43 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
AubreyD. Offline
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Registered: 03/07/13
Posts: 455
Loc: Freestone county Texas
As far as how well I would like it to shoot moa is fine with me for a hunting rifle but the more accurate it is you wont hear me complain.
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#2457101 - 03/08/13 08:48 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
RonO. Offline
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Registered: 11/29/10
Posts: 614
Loc: SoDak
Take a close look at the crown of the barrel. A crown cut out of square can have odd effects on where the powder gas pushes the bullet. Re-crowning a barrel is fairly reasonable.
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#2457103 - 03/08/13 08:49 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
Pruson Offline
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Registered: 11/30/02
Posts: 2988
Loc: Hanover County, VA
I had a Model Seven Predator in 17 Fireball, it's inconsistent groups drove me crazy. I took it to my gunsmith to accurize, you know float, bed, trigger all the good stuff. He said you don't want to float this barrel, it has to touch the stock. He showed me the two tabs inside the forearm that serve as the barrel rest. I was not a believer. I told him the story of poor groups and he said to add a piece of rubber gasket material in the forearm on top of the bedding blocks integral to the composite stock to ensure contact, retorque. I did, groups improved tremendously. It has worked on some other Model Sevens as well. Just sayin'
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#2457112 - 03/08/13 08:55 PM Re: Remington Model 7 predator 22-250 will not shoot. Please help! [Re: AubreyD.]
AubreyD. Offline
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Registered: 03/07/13
Posts: 455
Loc: Freestone county Texas
But does it seem odd you have to do all this stuff to the " Most accurate rifle out of the box" to make it accurate? What is with Remingtons quality control. The crown of the barrel is nice and round and smooth.
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