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Originally Posted By: 6724it constantly amazes me that some people can proclaim themselves to be politically conservative (although this guy did not) while calling for socialist market controls. sure it annoys me when people get to walmart at opening and clean out their stock of ammo and then offer it up for sale at ridiculous prices, BUT, I could get up early on thursday and drive to town and get in line for "my share".

small mom and pop dealers have usually had higher prices on ammo and guns around here, they probably also pay higher prices for their products due to lower sales volume. should they be held out on some website as gougers"

capitalism is a great thing and works amazingly well, it has been molested enough in this country for it to be hardly recognizable in some markets. the last thing i want is for somebody to tell me what i have to sell a product for. after that the "market police" will tell me what product i can manufacture. i don't care what the reason, the market should determine pricing!

i have heard that it is illegal for a business in an area where a major disaster has hit to sell a generator for "excessive" price. what a fine example of tamping down the american way. a business owner has the foresight to stock up on items that will be in high demand if a storm hits, he has a pile of money invested in stock, if the storm does not hit, he takes it in the shorts. but if the storm does hit, he is not allowed to charge what the market will bear!

although josuas's intent is noble? we do not need more intervention in the market.

if joshua would love to tell us how he purchase 4000 rounds for a good price, why doesn't he? my guess is that this new website will some how make money off of that info, or charge sellers to sell their product. if so, who will come along and tell him how much profit he can make off the seller?

I don't plan on making any profit off the site unless people pay for a banner but that's not something I'm planning at this point. If something isn't in at a store do you just hope for it to arrive eventually or do you 'special order'it? There are several of you here that completely oppose my intentions for my project that's OK, but don't attack me or the idea because you don't agree. Capitalism is a great idea until it threatens others livelyhood at which point it's crap and only those at the top are in complete control. Curious how you all feel about the 1% theory Are you OK with that?
 
You wanna help me out. I spend far more on gas. Why don't ya set up some kinda DA crap on Facebook to figure out where I can buy gas cheap instead of buying from gougers lurking at every corner.
 
[/quote] Capitalism is a great idea until it threatens others livelyhood at which point it's crap and only those at the top are in complete control. Curious how you all feel about the 1% theory Are you OK with that? [/quote]

it sounds like you are only happy with capitalism when you are the beneficiary. either you are for it or you are not. if you are not, then you are perhaps a socialist, or a marxist or some perversion of a communist.

exactly whose livelihood are the gougers threatening?
please explain your 1% theory, but if it has anything to do with the occupy movement, i think you will not find a sympathetic audience here.
 
Originally Posted By: JoshuaN... Capitalism is a great idea until....

You lost me with "until..."
 
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How does ammo cost 'threaten the livelihood' of anyone? Is it an daily essential for life sustenance? Nah...didn't think so. It's a hobby, sport, luxury item that isn't required for day to spay living. Therefore, gouging is an incorrect term.

Pharmaceuticals are gougers. New vehicles are price gouged.


This is simple supply and demand. As long as folks continue to push hard to get ammo, and the supply chains don't keep up...the prices can/should and will be higher. If folks would sit back, allow the supply chains to replenish, the cost will stabilize.
 
Nobody's holding a gun to anyone's head to make them buy from these horrible capitalists. So tired of everybody thinking that life has to be a level playing field. Get over it. It isn't. I, for one, like to make as much money as I possibly can in all of my endeavors. If I don't, then someone else will. Guess that makes me a rotten person.
 
Originally Posted By: skb2706You wanna help me out. I spend far more on gas. Why don't ya set up some kinda DA crap on Facebook to figure out where I can buy gas cheap instead of buying from gougers lurking at every corner.

There's an app for that!
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Originally Posted By: GerbsYou would do more good by making a list of people who don't like pure capitalism.

1. JoshuaN
2. Obama
3.

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It is nice to see that nobody is upset about the high prices. That means I shouldnt have to remove any more comments from the classifieds about peoples prices. There are a few in this post that dont see a problem with the prices that I believe have had comments removed by me.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600It is nice to see that nobody is upset about the high prices. That means I shouldnt have to remove any more comments from the classifieds about peoples prices. There are a few in this post that dont see a problem with the prices that I believe have had comments removed by me.

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. More than a few guys on this thread seem to be protesting this idea just a little TOO much. Especially the ones who have been known to comment on the prices others are charging. Looks like this love of unfettered capitalism only applies in some situations.

Almost like they might have a naughty, in-the-closet, secret life as a price-gouging ammo scum and they don't want anybody talking about it least they see their name up in lights on a website. C'mon some of you! Come out of the closet and live in the light! Free yourself by confessing, ammo scum sinners! You're a price-gouging reseller scum who was taking advantage of the good sportsmen, women, and children out there so you could line your own pockets. Confess and be free!

I'm all in favor of both the free market AND free speech. If you want to sit on a lawn chair in front of Walmart at 5 a.m. so you can grab the .22 LR shells before anyone else does and then resell them at an inflated price, go ahead. That's your right and freedom.

But then don't be crying about it when someone wants to exercise their freedom and call you out as a price-gouging ammo scum for doing it. It's their opinion and their right to say it. Sorry if it hurts your feelings, cry baby, but tough sh!t.

If you're afraid of getting named as an ammo scum, you must at some level have a feeling that you're doing something wrong. Otherwise, why would you care about some website?

Kind of reminds me of a situation back on 9/11 when some gas stations doubled the pump price of gas right after the attacks. Then they quickly backed down after the media showed up, but still maintained they weren't doing anything wrong. Well if you weren't, then why did you drop the price back down?

I love the idea and hope the sight goes ahead.

Grouse
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600It is nice to see that nobody is upset about the high prices.

Never said I wasn't upset by the high prices.
 
I have nothing to worry about from any kind of site like ammoscum proposes to be. I do a little trading and speculating to supplement my income and have no qualms about doing so. Never have sold any ammo at a mark up that I can recall, but I have turned a decent profit on some vehicles, ag equipment, and livestock. As one guy has told me many times "You make your money when you buy". Basically, that means you need to buy whatever it is under market value, then sell it at what the market/buyers will give for it. If a guy buys 22 ammo at wally world for 25$ and sells it for a profit I have no problem with it, shoot I know a few old timers on a fixed income that have buddied up to the gun counter guy at wally world. They buy him a steak now and then and he lets them know when the ammo will be in. Yeah, it makes it harder for everyone else to get 22 ammo but it is not like no one else can do what they are doing. If you want to bad mouth other people for how they try to make a living or make their living better have at it, I figure no one is perfect. We could all nit pick at one another's way of doing things and get absolutely no where. Like I alluded to in one of my previous posts on this thread it seems that there is serious 'Socialist' undercurrent in this thread. Also, looks to me like the intent is to kind of Cyber-bully anyone that has ammo priced at what one person judges to be "gouging".

As has already been posted "if you don't like the price of something, don't buy it". I would add "and quit crying about it."
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600It is nice to see that nobody is upset about the high prices. That means I shouldnt have to remove any more comments from the classifieds about peoples prices. There are a few in this post that dont see a problem with the prices that I believe have had comments removed by me.

More than likely the same folks bashing me about being a socialist or comparing me to Obama. Ammo price jacking is a problem, period. If you don't have a problem with it you're more than likely part of the problem. Thanks for pointing out the trolls reb.
 
Originally Posted By: The Famous GrouseOriginally Posted By: reb8600It is nice to see that nobody is upset about the high prices. That means I shouldnt have to remove any more comments from the classifieds about peoples prices. There are a few in this post that dont see a problem with the prices that I believe have had comments removed by me.

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. More than a few guys on this thread seem to be protesting this idea just a little TOO much. Especially the ones who have been known to comment on the prices others are charging. Looks like this love of unfettered capitalism only applies in some situations.

Almost like they might have a naughty, in-the-closet, secret life as a price-gouging ammo scum and they don't want anybody talking about it least they see their name up in lights on a website. C'mon some of you! Come out of the closet and live in the light! Free yourself by confessing, ammo scum sinners! You're a price-gouging reseller scum who was taking advantage of the good sportsmen, women, and children out there so you could line your own pockets. Confess and be free!

I'm all in favor of both the free market AND free speech. If you want to sit on a lawn chair in front of Walmart at 5 a.m. so you can grab the .22 LR shells before anyone else does and then resell them at an inflated price, go ahead. That's your right and freedom.

But then don't be crying about it when someone wants to exercise their freedom and call you out as a price-gouging ammo scum for doing it. It's their opinion and their right to say it. Sorry if it hurts your feelings, cry baby, but tough sh!t.

If you're afraid of getting named as an ammo scum, you must at some level have a feeling that you're doing something wrong. Otherwise, why would you care about some website?

Kind of reminds me of a situation back on 9/11 when some gas stations doubled the pump price of gas right after the attacks. Then they quickly backed down after the media showed up, but still maintained they weren't doing anything wrong. Well if you weren't, then why did you drop the price back down?

I love the idea and hope the sight goes ahead.

Grouse




Thanks for the positive attitude. I have also been wondering why a select few would be so passionately against and disgruntled about a website of this nature. I'm all for making money just like everyone else however there's always a line that when crossed everyone has to take a step back and think about the situation. Trolls will be trolls, gougers will be gougers, ammo scum will be exposed!
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760How does ammo cost 'threaten the livelihood' of anyone? Is it an daily essential for life sustenance? Nah...didn't think so. It's a hobby, sport, luxury item that isn't required for day to spay living. Therefore, gouging is an incorrect term.

Pharmaceuticals are gougers. New vehicles are price gouged.


This is simple supply and demand. As long as folks continue to push hard to get ammo, and the supply chains don't keep up...the prices can/should and will be higher. If folks would sit back, allow the supply chains to replenish, the cost will stabilize.

It wouldn't be a supply problem if people weren't out there buying it up only to turn around and sell it for double. It's nice to see you have a problem with the capitalist pharma folk though, maybe social medicine could help that. Oh there I go again mentioning socialist ideals because I'm an Obama lover and think he's god's gift to 'merca and should be elected a 3rd term. Or at least that's what people are saying here. The livelyhood of those that can't enjoy the things they like doing without paying a huge price is directly affected.

How exactly are they going to replenish if these ammo scum bags keep buying it up, that part of your post makes no sense because as long as they continue the ammo cost gouging will continue which is the exact reason I want to expose the scum!
 
The problem isn't the folks re-selling for high prices. It's the idiots that did not prepare and are paying the high prices of the resellers. IF this would stop, the supply chains would replenish. MANY have said that in this thread and in the past, but some still refuse to see it.
 
Originally Posted By: ChupathingyHow is ammoscum any different than Car&Driver or Road&Track or Consumer Reports magazines? They will be giving essentially a review of vendors be it public or private sales. When TopGear gives a bad review of a car or says its dramatically over priced, does the manufacturer call Jeremy Clarkson a "Communist"?


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I haven't opened any of these magazines since high school, so I really don't know how they are written. Do they refer to the dealers/makers in derogatory terms, or just say that they don't like the handling, interior, or that there are better buys out there? JoshuaN doesn't like the idea of people profiting from selling ammo; I don't like the idea of ammoscum as it has been presented here, and think I have clearly stated why.
 
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