Originally Posted By: Kizmo HOWEVER, I don't want anything "finicky". So, would you please explain what you mean about "finicky rifles".
Finicky means a couple of things in a MZ. First finicky means it will only shoot accurately one type of projectile or one type of powder, or one type of anything.
Another part of finicky is alot of the TC's(whick I really like and own several) Are extremley hard to load. They will only take a specific sabot or a specifically sized conical.
A third factor is that the rifles will only shoot one shot, then you can't get the second shot down a fouled barrel. Or the second shot is way off target.
I have owned 3 different Encore MZ barrels. And have been around easily another 2 dozen or more. About 1/2 of them were extremely finicky about all the above. That is why I don't like them. I had two Omega's. One was the most accurate MZ I have ever seen in my life. However it took a hammer to get a load down the barrel. And it was physically impossible to get a second shot down the barrel. This is what I mean by finicky.
In my MK-85's and my Knight LRH I can load anything down the tube. Conical or sabot. And they all shoot accurately with whatever powder I choose. I consider the Knight's as a non-finicky rifle. Alot of that has to do with a superior(IMO) Green mountain Barrel.
I sound like I am knocking the Encore. And in a way I am. I know alot of guys who have had extremely good luck with theirs. But I also know alot of guys who have alot of finicky problems with theirs.
Also you will need to do a trigger job on any Encore. So for the price of a Pro Hunter I should not have to do trigger work. And the trigger should at least be adjustable. But it is not. Just an opinion. But this opinion is from a guy who owns a dozen or more MZ's. And has been shooting MZ's for over 40 years.
As far as cleaning is concerned. With the exception of a Savage you have to clean all of them. If 2 or 3 minutes is going to make you procrastinate then I suggest you stay away from MZ's. They are not as simple as a CF rifle.
I also agree with 2-Much on the CVA's. No thank you. Tom.
Finicky means a couple of things in a MZ. First finicky means it will only shoot accurately one type of projectile or one type of powder, or one type of anything.
Another part of finicky is alot of the TC's(whick I really like and own several) Are extremley hard to load. They will only take a specific sabot or a specifically sized conical.
A third factor is that the rifles will only shoot one shot, then you can't get the second shot down a fouled barrel. Or the second shot is way off target.
I have owned 3 different Encore MZ barrels. And have been around easily another 2 dozen or more. About 1/2 of them were extremely finicky about all the above. That is why I don't like them. I had two Omega's. One was the most accurate MZ I have ever seen in my life. However it took a hammer to get a load down the barrel. And it was physically impossible to get a second shot down the barrel. This is what I mean by finicky.
In my MK-85's and my Knight LRH I can load anything down the tube. Conical or sabot. And they all shoot accurately with whatever powder I choose. I consider the Knight's as a non-finicky rifle. Alot of that has to do with a superior(IMO) Green mountain Barrel.
I sound like I am knocking the Encore. And in a way I am. I know alot of guys who have had extremely good luck with theirs. But I also know alot of guys who have alot of finicky problems with theirs.
Also you will need to do a trigger job on any Encore. So for the price of a Pro Hunter I should not have to do trigger work. And the trigger should at least be adjustable. But it is not. Just an opinion. But this opinion is from a guy who owns a dozen or more MZ's. And has been shooting MZ's for over 40 years.
As far as cleaning is concerned. With the exception of a Savage you have to clean all of them. If 2 or 3 minutes is going to make you procrastinate then I suggest you stay away from MZ's. They are not as simple as a CF rifle.
I also agree with 2-Much on the CVA's. No thank you. Tom.