Oh boy there are so many new and improved latest and greatest cartridges out there right now which really is cool like for instance the wssm family 17hmr 204 ruger 17hh the list goes on. I'm honestly glad im alive and well in these times it's kind of exciting there is lots of cool stuff out there. But sometimes alot of people get to caught up in what they should have and will this work and the this vs this. Well I won't lie to you guys but I get caught up in all the hype too I I've got electronic callers and bipods and ar15 in a 223 and 204 and the list goes on. But when my dad took me out hunting fox when I was a little boy he had one call and one gun a scotch call and a sako 17 and I gave me his old sako vixen 222. And we killed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of fox and coyotes with those two guns and two scotch calls. I love my tripple duce and would never part with it. It is one of the most accurate cartridges of all time and has won more shooting matches than any other. Ya it's not a speed demon like a 204 or 17 rem but with light 40 or 35 gr pills it's moving along pretty good I've always shot 52 gr pills at around 3100fps and that's pretty good. I guess what I'm getting at is some of you guys that are looking for a small center fire cartridge that is about as accurate as any other rifle out there check out the old tripple Duce you won't be disappointed.