Originally Posted By: NdIndyOriginally Posted By: chzIf I made a bad or even questionable judgement call using deadly force or had an accidental discharge you bet your [beeep] I would prefer to be a LEO instead of Joe Public. Look at all the high profile bad police shootings. “I thought he was reaching for a gun” isn’t going to fly nearly as well for Joe Public. Please don’t make me waste my time pulling up all the bad shootings from the last few years.. LEO are put in a tough spot having to enforce the law and also protect themselves. There is a considerable amount of leeway given to them when they feel threatened. I suspect the reason they are never prosecuted is because it’s a slippery slope. If you start prosecuting officers who make poor decisions and take lives it could create an atmosphere where officers are too concerned about making the wrong call and it could cost them their lives. It’s not ok for an officer to feel threatened and not react the way they feel they should for fear of making a bad decision and going to jail.
It’s a tough job with a world of responsibility. I have nothing but respect for LEOs, especially now that they are under such scrutiny because of the actions of a few.
Nope, not even close to correct. In court a regular person is held to the "reasonable man" standard. In laymen terms would your average guy with no training, in the same situation come to the same conclusion. That's a really low bar to cross.
LE otoh is held to the "reasonable officer" standard. In laymen again, would your average officer, with training and experience, make the same decision. A much higher bar.
In 1, "I was scared" is a legitimate defense.
As far as mags, do you honestly expect some nut job Pos who has decided to massacre children is going to turn in his 30 round mags because they are banned?
Thanks for the explanation. As far as mags go, no I don’t think a criminal would turn them in. I dont think the govt would even try to come after them, I would suspect they would just outlaw the sale of them going forward making it illegal to sell them commercially or privately. I would expect criminals could still find a way to get their hands on them through nefarious means from the existing stockpiles but at a price. I do think there is a reasonable chance it could impact the ability of an 18 year old kid to get his hands on them while he is planning to shoot up a school. If he chooses 10 or 20 round mags because he can’t easily get 30, 40, 60+ round mags then that’s something. It’s really not much but it’s better than doing nothing. I was going to start a new thread but I’ve wasted enough time with this today. We are likely all set in our opinions. PM can carry whatever opinion of me they wish because I believe it’s our responsibility to do something. Doing nothing has not worked and I’m tired of seeing kids die because we can’t even agree on some common sense regulations.
