Shermanrm, I'm the one that found GOLD at Round Mountain. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I know you go to Carvers to have something to eat now and then, I knew Gary Garver and his late mom. I have hunted coyotes in Smokey Valley for more then 30 years. I've killed hundreds and hundreds of coyotes there, to many people there now, hunting ain't like it use to be, Good Hunting.