Swedes who wanna hunt 'yotes

Not all 'yotes were taken by 'copter. The best bang for your buck comes from fixed wing planes that cost 4/5ths per hour less than 'copter. Our fed guys tell me that if they don't average 2.7 'yotes per hour flying(plane) time they quit flying and resort to ground work(traps, calling). We keep some time reserved for the 'copter if we need it to fly the mountains, or, for the 'very large' predators where delivery, accuracy, and control are required. And, yes, all that extra help and money has made a difference in the remaining numbers of coyotes and fox. I've always felt that this 'effort' was made to allow the wolves the ability to expand into new areas by bringing up the survival rates of deer and pronghorn calves. Coyotes are real decimaters of those young.

MAGNUS Most, but not all counties are signed up for the program. Some counties opt for local control rather than hire the feds. I know that Sheridan is under local control. Park county was under 'local control'
until two years ago. How many others and where? That I am not sure of. This 'intensive' control has been going on for the last 2-3 (this being the third) years.....

Our county has had at least one trapper, using traps, dogs and planes for the last 40 years that I know of. ONE trapper CANNOT manage this county anually successfully. Their primary goal is to stop the killing of live stock by predators. There have been times when the trapper could hardly spin in his shoes for the killing tha was going on. I have seen a time 3 years ago that no matter where you went you could call in coyotes - even in my back yard(which I have done)...
 
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Quote:I have absolutely nothing against aerial hunting for control but it didn't seem like they were getting a lot of bang for their buck.
A crew in a chopper canbe pretty effective compared to a plane. I don't know about all areas where the plane or chopper is used, but the ones i do know about are restricted to gunning only in the areas they have permission to do so. If a neighbor ajoining a problem area says no gunning on his property then there is no gunning..The coyotes will get thinned out pretty good in a problem area but will fill back in from the ajoining ranches that don't allow gunning. So there will always be coyotes around even after the plane or chopper has been through.. I've seen a plane work a problem area for a half a day and took 30 some coyotes, just imagine the kill number in a area that has more coyotes compared to the area i was in at the time..
 
Rahkola,
I read somewhere that Arizona has the best concentration
of coyotes. Even though I'm right next door, I've never hunted
Arizona. I don't believe night hunting is allowed. Grizz
 
GRIZZLYONE I´ve also heard that Arizona has the highest population, but the landscape can be pretty tought if you´re gonna call them in.

But Wyoming seems to be out of the question. Because it´s seems like it´s illegal to hunt there without an outfitter.
So I´ve heard and read, but my english is´nt THAT good so I´ve may have missed something?
 
Like I said, I've never hunted Arizona. But I know many callers who do and I've been told the problem is heavy brush, cover in alot of areas of Arizona that requier the use of a shotgun. I tell you what, you should hunt in Nevada. I've allways had outstanding success there, wide open country,
lots of coyotes, some areas are even open to night hunting. But remember, bobcats and fox are off limits to non residents period. My partner and I have had some great hunts in Nevada.
On one of our best hunts in Nevada, my partner "Rotten Luck Willie" and I killed 16 coyotes in a 48 hour period. Besides, Nevada is still the wild west. You have casinos, you have legal brothels in case you get the "miserys" I love Nevada. If you go, make sure to have a sound vehicle, some areas of Nevada
are really remote. Get maps and study them. Also a cell phone and maby a GPS. If you decide for sure to hunt Nevada, send me a PM and I'll send you more specific info. Grizz
 
To sum it up, we have Arizona - bad landscape
Wyoming - the outfitter law (need to hunt with an outfitter?)

How about Nevada, I´ve tried to find regulations on their website. But all that reading gives me an headake.
Is there some law that says that we need guide/outfitter/something else to hunt as an non-resident?
How about Texas and New Mexico?
I know that the license is a bit more expensive, but is it hard to get access to some land there?

Thanks!
Magnus
 
To my knowledge there is no requirement for an 'outfitter' needed to hunt predators in Wyoming. IF your hunting big game animals you are required to hunt with an outfitter.

ARIZONA We go down every winter to whang away at the 'yotes and there are a lot of them. You do need to buy a small game? license to hunt though. Out of state( and I presume out of country) license fee is $150.00.
 
TA17REM Montana seems to love the chopper approach. One of my friends used to be a fed trapper up there and he said the best day they ever had was 90+ coyotes from the 'copter. I always got the impression that they(Montana) relied more on the 'copter and less on the ground work. According to my friend there a heck of a lot more coyotes in south and south east Mont. than there are here - for what ever reason. He says you get out there where its flat and a lot of ravines and those coyotes are all over those ravines.
 
I don't believe Navada has a outfitter requiremant for nonresidents, you could call them. You could fly into Vegas, rent a vehicle, and your hunting. Texas you have a lot of private property issues.
I don't know nothing about New Mexico, I hear it is the "Land of enchantment". I've never once been enchanted wilst there
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. I do think Nevada is your best bet, you will see lots of coyotes. Grizz.
 
I don't know where you are getting your info about having a guide in Wyoming. I have never heard anything about requiring a guide for non-residents except that non-residents must have a guide to hunt big game in designated wilderness areas. There are plenty of areas to hunt predators on public land that are not wilderness areas.
In fact, most wilderness areas are in the back country in the mountains and wouldn't be that good for coyotes in December.
 
NM Pros: lots of public land, plenty of coyotes, cheap license (relatively and only for coyotes), nice weather, good Mexican food.

NM cons: you have to ante up for the furbearer license ($300) to kill bobcats or fox, unclear regulations re: state land, the non-resident non-game license doesn't technically authorize you to take the fur (which isn't a big deal because hides aren't worth that much in the desert anyway, so try to find a local that has some use for them).
 
Nevada has no guide requirements for hunting predators. No lisence is needed for coyotes. Bobcat and grey fox are not legal game for non-residents. Kit fox can be taken when in season and with a valid non-resident trappers permit. Non-resident Mt. Lion permits are available over the counter. Night hunting is legal in some counties. Shooting from a vehicle or from a road is prohibited.
www.ndow.org.
 
well now it´s decided. We´re going to Wyoming!
We will fly from Sweden 27 November and be back home 16 December.

Now it´s just all the paper-work left. As I understood we need to fill out applications to bring firearms and ammunition in to the states. And a certified translation of our swedish hunting-certifications.

If anyone wonna join us, hunting some coyotes, you just contact me!

And a BIG thank you to everyone who has help me with all the information!
I´ll probably gonna need some more later on...

Magnus
 
Well, if the four of you are coming to Wyoming, and need one of us to meet you at the airport, is this how we'll know it's you guys? :>)

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Rahkola, you've been a good sport!
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hahaha nice picture! Youre making me proud as a swede
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Just one quick question! What kind of license do you need in Wyoming to hunt fox? Small game or what?

BTW im the one to the left!
 
Magnus, it's not easy looking up Wyoming predator hunting laws online...I tried and below is all I could come up with from the Wyoming G & F site:

Predatory Animals – In Wyoming, several species are legally classified as predatory
animals. These are coyote, red fox, raccoon, porcupine, skunk, jackrabbit and stray domestic
cat. These species may be hunted or trapped without a license and there is no closed season.

Technically, predators in Wyoming fall under the jurisdiction of the Wyo. Dept. of Agriculture.

I do know that you are allowed to hunt with lights at night only on private ground with written permission from landowner.

You'll pretty much only find red fox around agricultural areas, very few to none waaaay out in the middle of the desert.

Hope this helps!
 
Does anyone know any furbuyer in Wyoming who would be intrested in buying coyote?
We figured that we don´t wanna waste time with fleshing all the coyote.
 
Magnus,

From what I've been hearing, coyote hides aren't going to be worth much this season. I hate to waste game but sadly, they might not be worth skinning.

On the plus side, some counties will have bounties.
 
Hi again!
The big day is coming closer and I just wonder if anyone know where we can find a map over Wyoming?

Would be nice to find a map where its says which is public, and which is private land.

Thanks!
 
Contact the Forest Service and BLM offices in the state of Wyoming. That is where you will find your maps. They most likely have a website.
 
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