Sow Nailed in Backyard

Originally Posted By: Bone breaker 73Took y 11 year old out for his first hog hunt. Just shortened the stock on the LMT 308 with the RS64 and he smoked his first boar at 150 yards. Proud dad moment! At 99 pounds, he looks pretty small next to this guy.



Awesome job by your son, Max! He's got a great Dad too!
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She is still a hunter in training. Has been on dozens of hunts as a helper/observer, so now she is getting some solid firearms training for when we set her up in a stand.
 
Another big boy falls to the T-70 with a headshot, lots of good meat on this one!

Picked him up with the helmet mounted FLIR M-24, was a piece of cake to stalk him down after that!


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Skypup - do you feel like you are "getting ahead" of the hog problem down your way? Or just holding them in abeyance? They seem like savvy and intelligent critters - worthy of a hunter's best efforts. BTW - any big snakes in your area?
 
Originally Posted By: prairiefireSkypup - do you feel like you are "getting ahead" of the hog problem down your way? Or just holding them in abeyance? They seem like savvy and intelligent critters - worthy of a hunter's best efforts. BTW - any big snakes in your area?

ITT Raynoir just clear cut 800 acres out back and now the hogs are dispersed all over the place after all the racket they caused. They are out of here for the rest of the year and will cut another 1,200 acres next year.

We have not put a dent in the hog population at all. You need to kill 70% of them each year just to break even and that is not going to happen with all the swamps they are in that are impossible to traverse, we only get them when they come out into the uplands at night.

If anything, it has gotten worse each year with the hogs for the past 15 or so years, prior to that it was not such a problem. They all appear to be very healthy too, no signs of major disease, parasitism, or malnutrition in any of them.
 
I had been after that big boy boar for about a month and a half until our rendezvous the other night ended up with him getting a sizzling slug in the ear!



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He thought he was some hot stuff to all the other sows around, but now he be chillin'.....



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Having slaughtered thousands of hogs during veterinary school and afterwards, it is simply amazing that these wild tuskers can put on so much weight and have so little fat. Especially since the hogs are completely feral in the wilderness here, there are no ag crops whatsoever for them to "Pig Out On."

Doing a necropsy on each and everyone of them for any signs of infectious diseases and/ or parasitism they have all been very very clean, although that does not mean they are not carrying some kind of subclinical virus, bacteria or nematodes.

I always slice their kidneys with a sharp knife, should cut like butter and no resistance, if friable then suspect possible brucellosis, leptosporosis, Salmonella cholerasusis, etc. systemically, especially if any of the mesenteric lymph glands are swollen or small intestines inflamed.

Also, liver should be same way, no spots or blotches, cuts like butter and check the gall bladder and bile duct for fluke worms.

If I discover any swollen lymph nodes, inflammation/tumors, friable liver/kindeys, or flukes, its buzzard bait, too many good ones to worry about a bad one.
 
In the last ten years or so of butchering wild hogs, the MAJOR danger signs that I've noted have mostly been the result of boars fighting.

As such, they often will have penetrating subcutaneous wounds into their musculature beneath their shields where another boars tusks have entered, also sometimes their scrotal sac is punctured since it is so large and exposed and very thin epidermis covering it to protect the crown jewels.

Three times I have found a large softball sized abscess under the shield up against the scapula filled with pus, I have also seen this twice in their scrotum.

Most likely, this is a gram positive Staphylococcus aureus infection (think flesh eating bacteria), although hogs often get Erysipelothrix rhusiopathiae, another gram positive bacteria that causes septicemia and is zoonotic to humans.

The danger with Staph infections, besides the fact that the bacteria is highly concentrated and hyper infectious to you itself, is that Staph excretes a powerful endotoxin that is super bad to ingest and will make you sick as a dog (think bad food poisoning). So do not eat any carcasses with any pus sacs.....it does not help to cut out the infected pus sac as the endotoxin is water soluable and already has permeated the entire animal....

I have also found a couple of the large boars/sows I have taken down with previous older .223 and .308 slugs in their shoulders with the resulting scar tissue and bone/muscular tissue damage from previous shootings that they recovered from in the past, generally this is not a problem health wise if you just cut around this damaged tissue, it is not infectious.

In general terms, wild animals do not live long healthy productive lives in the wild when ill or sickly, they die. So 99.8% of the time they are basically GTG if they are mobile, eating, and running around, a sickly animal is immediate prey or dies of disease/stress/starvation in the wild.

But, you do need to be aware, especially with Brucellosis and Leptosporosis bacteria which are zoonotic for humans and cause devastating diseases in man. If you ever are sick as a dog and at the docs for some bizarre reason, be sure to let the doc know that you are a hog hunter as most general practitioners/internists do NOT have a clue to diagnose these types of zoonotic diseases without a referral to an infectious disease specialist.

And for God's sake, if you ever get a tick on you, carefully remove it and put it in an aspirin bottle with Isoproponal rubbing alcohol so if you ever do come down with any of the large number of terrible tick transmitted diseases, they can extract the DNA from your preserved tick and find out what the [beeep] you got from the tick. Ticks are bad, real bad......ticks really sux bad.
 
Originally Posted By: WedgySkypup, thanks for all the great info !!!
Isn't the staff toxin heat labile ?

Staph enterotoxin can withstand boiling even after all the bacteria are killed from boiling, but it will destroyed during autoclaving in a sterilizer under pressure at higher temps since it is a protein.

However, it is not something you would want to risk messing with due to the severe sickness it causes and its effects on the immune system.

It is also an agent of bioterrorism:

http://www.absa.org/abj/abj/061103ahanotu.pdf
 
Had an exciting hunt by myself tonight and nailed another large 400 pound boar hog.
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Walked out behind the house with my FLIR M-24 helmet mount and hiked on my forest trail out about a half mile when I saw a hot thermal spot in some really thick brush. Looked at it for a few minutes and moved around trying to get a better look but could not tell what it was as it looked like it may be a dead tree trunk in the brush.

Turned on the FLIR LS-XR and InstaAlert instantly lite him up bright red and knew it was a hog, but still very difficult to see in the thick cover, walked around trying to get a better angle and finally he heard me and raised his head up and I put a 77 grain SMK in his ear at about 80 yards with the HK 556 and FLIR T-70 thermal.

I have been after this large boar for about four months now and have seen him on the game cams numerous times, in fact I had previously shot him in the side from a long range about six weeks ago and he had a deep wound about five inches long in his side from the previous shot.



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