Originally Posted By: roadkill46here is my post to the site...and a pic:
Have any of you thought of the destruction of domestic/commercial/and wildlife that coyotes, wolves, bobcats, mountain lions, feral dogs and cats do on an annual basis to our nations ranchers and farmers? They take an inumerable amount of calves, lambs, etc as well as your domestic cats and dogs. They spread disease like wildfire. Predator hunters do not even put a small dent in their population. They breed and breed and the destructive cycle continues. My neigbor lost a dog to a coyote. Carried him off in his mouth right in front of us. That was 10 years ago and I hunt them every chance that i get. I am not in an area that there are many wolves, but I support Nikon 100%! Their Coyote Special scope is one of the better products for predator hunters. Be advised before you start your Starbucks, PETA, flaming of me, that I am an ethical hunter and only go for a clean kill and don't shoot if I do not have said shot. Predator hunting is a sport. It is not like Elk, Deer, or any other big game animal. It is hunting the top of the food chain in the animal world. There are more misses than hits when predator hunting. I skin and keep all of my pelts and leave the meat for the other carrion to feed off of. You all should concentrate on what you can do for the National Deficit and what YOUR president is doing to this country instead of worrying about a coyote. My .02....let the flames begin!!
I just checked that site and surprise, surprise, surprise...your well thought out and educational comment does not seem to be there!
Imagine that!
Let's see if my commment is allowed to show up on that site:
"I understand and respect those who desire to protect a species so that it will survive and be a part of our environment. The reintroduction of the wolf to the US has been tremendously successful. Job well done.
As for the coyote, that species has never been in danger of eradication or even low population numbers and there is good reason for it. Unlike the wolf, coyote do not have a social structure that limits breeding pairs. Most females of breeding age do have a successful liter every year.
The coyote is a smart predator and able to thrive in just about all US environments. He will prey on any animal he can and that includes dogs, cats, rabbit, mice, sheep, cattle (calves usually), deer, antelope, and even other coyote.
Coyote are very capable of learning the habits of those humans who hunt them and adapt well. Just try calling a coyote into camera range in areas that have been heavily hunted. You'll find that they answer with howls and there are good numbers but they will not leave the protection of their cover. They have learned and adapted well.
The coyote hunting contests that you seem to be so adamantly against, are held only in areas where the numbers of coyote are very high and there is a legitimate need to reduce the numbers of these predators. The organizers of these events do NOT support the indiscriminate elimination of the coyote. They fully understand the vital role predators play in the natural world but they also know that responsible management involves limiting their numbers so that other wildlife and the livestock of ranchers are not severely impacted.
It is possible to be an avid supporter of healthy wildlife populations, including predators, and support hunting as a viable and effective method of management."
I too sent a letter to the email address supplied in a previous post. I won't duplicate it here but basically, I thanked them for the support the do give to hunting forums and hunter's groups and encouraged them to continue that support. Ya get more flies with honey than ya do with vinegar.
I fully support responsible hunting as a wildlife management tool and very educational recreation. Just because I no longer get any pleasure from a kill doesn't mean that others, who put meat in the freezer and help control predator / pest populations, should do as I do and only hunt with a camera.
Have any of you thought of the destruction of domestic/commercial/and wildlife that coyotes, wolves, bobcats, mountain lions, feral dogs and cats do on an annual basis to our nations ranchers and farmers? They take an inumerable amount of calves, lambs, etc as well as your domestic cats and dogs. They spread disease like wildfire. Predator hunters do not even put a small dent in their population. They breed and breed and the destructive cycle continues. My neigbor lost a dog to a coyote. Carried him off in his mouth right in front of us. That was 10 years ago and I hunt them every chance that i get. I am not in an area that there are many wolves, but I support Nikon 100%! Their Coyote Special scope is one of the better products for predator hunters. Be advised before you start your Starbucks, PETA, flaming of me, that I am an ethical hunter and only go for a clean kill and don't shoot if I do not have said shot. Predator hunting is a sport. It is not like Elk, Deer, or any other big game animal. It is hunting the top of the food chain in the animal world. There are more misses than hits when predator hunting. I skin and keep all of my pelts and leave the meat for the other carrion to feed off of. You all should concentrate on what you can do for the National Deficit and what YOUR president is doing to this country instead of worrying about a coyote. My .02....let the flames begin!!
I just checked that site and surprise, surprise, surprise...your well thought out and educational comment does not seem to be there!
Let's see if my commment is allowed to show up on that site:
"I understand and respect those who desire to protect a species so that it will survive and be a part of our environment. The reintroduction of the wolf to the US has been tremendously successful. Job well done.
As for the coyote, that species has never been in danger of eradication or even low population numbers and there is good reason for it. Unlike the wolf, coyote do not have a social structure that limits breeding pairs. Most females of breeding age do have a successful liter every year.
The coyote is a smart predator and able to thrive in just about all US environments. He will prey on any animal he can and that includes dogs, cats, rabbit, mice, sheep, cattle (calves usually), deer, antelope, and even other coyote.
Coyote are very capable of learning the habits of those humans who hunt them and adapt well. Just try calling a coyote into camera range in areas that have been heavily hunted. You'll find that they answer with howls and there are good numbers but they will not leave the protection of their cover. They have learned and adapted well.
The coyote hunting contests that you seem to be so adamantly against, are held only in areas where the numbers of coyote are very high and there is a legitimate need to reduce the numbers of these predators. The organizers of these events do NOT support the indiscriminate elimination of the coyote. They fully understand the vital role predators play in the natural world but they also know that responsible management involves limiting their numbers so that other wildlife and the livestock of ranchers are not severely impacted.
It is possible to be an avid supporter of healthy wildlife populations, including predators, and support hunting as a viable and effective method of management."
I too sent a letter to the email address supplied in a previous post. I won't duplicate it here but basically, I thanked them for the support the do give to hunting forums and hunter's groups and encouraged them to continue that support. Ya get more flies with honey than ya do with vinegar.
I fully support responsible hunting as a wildlife management tool and very educational recreation. Just because I no longer get any pleasure from a kill doesn't mean that others, who put meat in the freezer and help control predator / pest populations, should do as I do and only hunt with a camera.
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