Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456Originally Posted By: fw707Quote:Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456The rings and bases normally dont cause the misalignment. Ive had one Rem 700 LVSF and one Saveage model 10 that had probelms. The 700 had front base holes that were misaligned and I wasn't able to keep the turrets on the scope centered very well so I lapped the Rings and then bedded them with bedding compound and was able to get the scope turrets more centered. The Savage had a problem with the distance of base height so I had to shim the scope base and also lap the Rings to help correct a small amount of horizontal distance that was off centered.
The easiest way to combat this problem is to just go with Burris Signature rings with the plastic inserts. Though im not a big fan of them as far as looks go, they do an amazing job of allowing one to correct any misalignment.
Why the heck did you patch up junk like that instead of getting the problem fixed? Well, on the Rem there really wasnt much I could do without alot of work. My 2 options were to have the holes welded closed then try to have them drilled again...hopefully straight. Or lap and bed the rings like i chose to do. The savage wasnt off too bad on horizontal, mainly just the vertical. But truthfully, its not uncommom to find a receiver that is off a several thousandths and need shimmed to help keep the turrets in center. On the Rem 700 i just couldnt justify spending that much money to correct this mistake. The gun was already out of production when i was dealing with this so i chose not to handle it with remington out of fear that they may not send that gun back. I was affraid to get some replacement that wouldnt be equal to the LVSF.
Looking back i should have at least contacted them to see what they would say, but normally my dealings with remington have always been answered by them saying "Send it in and we will take a look at it" rather than them committing to a solution over the phone. I just didnt want to chance it.
How did you determine the misalignment, and the amount of misalignment? kind of a trial and error. Along with discussing the problem with a fellow benchrest shooter. The problem first came to light when i mounted a scope for load development. It was a Weaver 36x and i was not able to get within 14" of center (needing more left adjustment). On the Savage it was a similar situation in the fact that i ran out of vertical and couldnt get the gun to sight in at 100 yards. It ended up needing .023" shim under the front base to correct it and get it back close to center. Of course, thru this whole time, i was trying different brand bases to see if it would help to no avail.
In the end, i had that benchrest shooter/gunsmith friend of mine put the actions in his mill and we ran some points of refernce to verify that indeed the holes were off on the Rem. And similar test for the Savage
Gotcha.
So why the heck did you keep junk like that, and go to all of the time and effort to fix it?
And still end up with junk? to each his own, but i love the Rem LVSF series of rifles and the Savage...well its like most savages i have....they just shoot.
Heck if i cast away every rifle ive ever owned that needed a little tlc, id be gunless. All of mine get a touch here and there to suit me. I even have my Jewel triggers blue printed. Only thing i havent had to work on yet is my Bix & Andy.
Well have fun with that.
I stopped patching up junk years ago.
I have more time for shooting now.
GFY
I’m an older person and I don’t understand all the internet lingo.
What does “GFY” mean? Google is your friend my elder
I will Google it, thanks.
Now why would you patch up out-of-spec junk and then “blueprint” a Jewell trigger?
The easiest way to combat this problem is to just go with Burris Signature rings with the plastic inserts. Though im not a big fan of them as far as looks go, they do an amazing job of allowing one to correct any misalignment.
Why the heck did you patch up junk like that instead of getting the problem fixed? Well, on the Rem there really wasnt much I could do without alot of work. My 2 options were to have the holes welded closed then try to have them drilled again...hopefully straight. Or lap and bed the rings like i chose to do. The savage wasnt off too bad on horizontal, mainly just the vertical. But truthfully, its not uncommom to find a receiver that is off a several thousandths and need shimmed to help keep the turrets in center. On the Rem 700 i just couldnt justify spending that much money to correct this mistake. The gun was already out of production when i was dealing with this so i chose not to handle it with remington out of fear that they may not send that gun back. I was affraid to get some replacement that wouldnt be equal to the LVSF.
Looking back i should have at least contacted them to see what they would say, but normally my dealings with remington have always been answered by them saying "Send it in and we will take a look at it" rather than them committing to a solution over the phone. I just didnt want to chance it.
How did you determine the misalignment, and the amount of misalignment? kind of a trial and error. Along with discussing the problem with a fellow benchrest shooter. The problem first came to light when i mounted a scope for load development. It was a Weaver 36x and i was not able to get within 14" of center (needing more left adjustment). On the Savage it was a similar situation in the fact that i ran out of vertical and couldnt get the gun to sight in at 100 yards. It ended up needing .023" shim under the front base to correct it and get it back close to center. Of course, thru this whole time, i was trying different brand bases to see if it would help to no avail.
In the end, i had that benchrest shooter/gunsmith friend of mine put the actions in his mill and we ran some points of refernce to verify that indeed the holes were off on the Rem. And similar test for the Savage
Gotcha.
So why the heck did you keep junk like that, and go to all of the time and effort to fix it?
And still end up with junk? to each his own, but i love the Rem LVSF series of rifles and the Savage...well its like most savages i have....they just shoot.
Heck if i cast away every rifle ive ever owned that needed a little tlc, id be gunless. All of mine get a touch here and there to suit me. I even have my Jewel triggers blue printed. Only thing i havent had to work on yet is my Bix & Andy.
Well have fun with that.
I stopped patching up junk years ago.
I have more time for shooting now.
I’m an older person and I don’t understand all the internet lingo.
What does “GFY” mean? Google is your friend my elder
I will Google it, thanks.
Now why would you patch up out-of-spec junk and then “blueprint” a Jewell trigger?