Have only tried three triggers on the AR platform. My RRA stock trigger, 4.2 lb and not a bad over all trigger. Timney 3 lb, 3#4oz as checked, that I replaced it with, much better and more to my liking. Finally the trigger on my son's AR, a DPMS I think. It tested at 7#2oz, and was just horrible overall, with massive creep and grittiness. I like the Timney a lot, but did not like the install, trying to get the set screws under the spring.