Originally Posted By: Doubleplay
Who? Millions of people who have been on the field for years hunting deer with bigger calibers like 30-30, 30-06 etc.. or states who does not allow anything smaller than .24.
Also apple to apple comparison please. Archery is not a caliber.
Millions of people rob, steal or do drugs. Does it mean it's right if a lot of people do it??? The fact that .30 calibers can kill deer has no bearing on wether a 22 caliber centerfire will or won't other than it works the same way.
Why do we have to omit Archery? Even if it's not a fair comparison can't we still deduct that if archery is human enough for deer & the 22-250 is better than archery - the 22-250 is human enough for deer.
IIRC there are only 5 or 7 states that do not allow .22 cal centerfires for leagal taking of deer (of course some states don't allow rifles for hunting big game at all - does that mean the 30/06 is less leathal than we thought?) . I think if you add that up; MANY more states say it's just fine (since the majority of states allow 22 cal it must be fine huh?). Some others will come arounds soon just like the current shift of several states now allowing suppressors.
A LOT of deer get wounded because of guys false sense with there .3** magnum & think as long as they are in "brown" it's good. Of those some are lucky to hit "brown" because they are scared to death of the gun because it kicks so hard. Not to mention they won't shoot/practice it because the ammo is $3+ a round. A man with a small caliber that can shoot it is MUCH more deadly.
I've killed well over 200 deer, a bunch of those with "bigger calibers like 30-30, 30-06 etc..". I've also killed a pile with smaller calibers like 22-250, 220 swift, 223, 6x45, 6BR (inadaquate calibers most would say). With a lot of TRUE personal field experience, I can tell you FROM EXPERIENCE: small calibers can "kill the animal as quickly as possible without causing much suffering".
Might I ask exactly how much experience you have taking larger game with .224" rifle? Trying to guage were you are coming from with your argument? Please change my mind if I have been doing it wrong the last several years. I havn't ever lost a deer with a 22 caliber rifle. I hope this thread doesn't change that.