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Originally Posted By: DropadoglvI've been hunting these contests since the early nineties. Some small local contests and some big such as the worlds, won a quite a few, placed in a few and didn't do crap in a heck of a lot. Can 13 win in basically a 12 hr hunt? "Yes", but jmho, highly unlikely if your following every rule. I've seen many teams get "busted" by cheating. Such as pooling, having dogs stashed in certain places, other people hunting already and not part of the contest. Jump hunting with 4 man teams, road hunting, shooting over dead piles and the list goes on! I'm not saying that there are cheaters in every contest, but they are out there. Having private land is a huge advantage, using decoy dogs, "huge"! If the rules allow it, then so be it. I was in a recent hunt here in NV. Was in the same hunt last year in which 5 dogs won in a straight 26 hr hunt. Figured this year right around the same would win? Usually after going to the same contests year after year you get to know your fellow hunters. This year at the last minutes before check in, a team came in with 13...2nd was 5...3rd was 4. I call BS on that!!! I wasn't their to see how the dogs were being checked such as liver temp, green belly, jaw..etc. but??? Just kinda weird how it all worked out. Yes, we have a heck of a lot of dogs out here in the SW. But also a heck of a lot of yote hunters too. I guess there is only so much you can do to make sure that all yotes shot were in that contests time period? Guess when $$$ and or weapons are the winning prizes, people will do "anything" to win.
Unfortunately, I was directed to this post by email from a friend of mine. I've been on the other side of this argument as well on the very same hunt a few years back. Pearson and Phillips took 21 in a 24hr hunt. Everyone was pissed and accusations were flying all over from just about everyone. After a little time passed, I realized it was possible especially in October when the pups are out running around like idiots.
This hunt was also a 24-26hr hunt. We did 3 stands at night and saw nothing (night hunting sucks balls if you're not in a high rack)so we did all of our hunting in daylight (32 stands). We called 14 and killed 13 of them. It's become fairly common for us to kill 8-10 in a day (with shotguns AKA "bird guns" by R.Shaw) in almost any areas we hunt. It's just not that difficult folks. 13 is our best in a day of competition but we have killed more outside of competition in a single day. And for the record, 13 won, 8 was 2nd, and 5 was 3rd at the NV Coyote Classic.
And if you have been doing these competitions for 30+ years, you probably have seen us around before. We didn't come out of the wood shed. We've won or placed in a bunch of local and regional events in the last 8 years. We placed 4th at Worlds (12 coyotes) a month before the NV Classic. We waited around at Worlds to be polygraphed in case anybody failed. We never even sweated it because we know we don't cheat. Chris Garret (promoter of the NV Classic)knows us and knows we don't cheat. Never have, never will. There's no glory or satisfaction for us if you have to cheat to win. Contrary to most, we don't hunt these for the money or the guns. We do it solely for the reckoning. We don't have a TV show, or guide, or promote any manufacturers products that we don't use. We are just killers, plain and simple.
And like others have stated in this thread, a lot of work and know how goes into winning these things. On a side note, don't believe anything anyone tells you about where they hunted. Public land, private land, whatever it is, it's definition can change from day to day. I can tell you with 100% certainty that we killed all 13 coyotes in the desert 100% legally and according to contest rules.
Matt Stewart
President South West Predator Callers
#SWPC
Unfortunately, I was directed to this post by email from a friend of mine. I've been on the other side of this argument as well on the very same hunt a few years back. Pearson and Phillips took 21 in a 24hr hunt. Everyone was pissed and accusations were flying all over from just about everyone. After a little time passed, I realized it was possible especially in October when the pups are out running around like idiots.
This hunt was also a 24-26hr hunt. We did 3 stands at night and saw nothing (night hunting sucks balls if you're not in a high rack)so we did all of our hunting in daylight (32 stands). We called 14 and killed 13 of them. It's become fairly common for us to kill 8-10 in a day (with shotguns AKA "bird guns" by R.Shaw) in almost any areas we hunt. It's just not that difficult folks. 13 is our best in a day of competition but we have killed more outside of competition in a single day. And for the record, 13 won, 8 was 2nd, and 5 was 3rd at the NV Coyote Classic.
And if you have been doing these competitions for 30+ years, you probably have seen us around before. We didn't come out of the wood shed. We've won or placed in a bunch of local and regional events in the last 8 years. We placed 4th at Worlds (12 coyotes) a month before the NV Classic. We waited around at Worlds to be polygraphed in case anybody failed. We never even sweated it because we know we don't cheat. Chris Garret (promoter of the NV Classic)knows us and knows we don't cheat. Never have, never will. There's no glory or satisfaction for us if you have to cheat to win. Contrary to most, we don't hunt these for the money or the guns. We do it solely for the reckoning. We don't have a TV show, or guide, or promote any manufacturers products that we don't use. We are just killers, plain and simple.
And like others have stated in this thread, a lot of work and know how goes into winning these things. On a side note, don't believe anything anyone tells you about where they hunted. Public land, private land, whatever it is, it's definition can change from day to day. I can tell you with 100% certainty that we killed all 13 coyotes in the desert 100% legally and according to contest rules.
Matt Stewart
President South West Predator Callers
#SWPC