Catskinner
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I sent an email to NBC also, lets keep on it.
No More Bob Costas for me!
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Did Jovan Belcher, the 6’2” 228 pound linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs, need a gun to kill his girlfriend Kasandra Perkins? How about to commit suicide? Apparently some think that Saturday's murder-suicide tragedy in Kansas City wouldn't have happened if he hadn't had a firearm. Amazingly, during halftime on NBC’s "Sunday Night Football," Bob Costas told viewers he believed: “If Jovan Belcher didn’t possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.”
Belcher apparently killed Perkins, the 22-year-old mother of his 3-month-old daughter, at home. The horrible tragedy occurred in front of Perkins’ mom. He then drove to the Chiefs' practice facility where he committed suicide.
Guns can make it easier to kill people, but that isn’t relevant here. Even if no weapon existed, the strength differential is so large that Belcher could have easily killed Perkins in any number of ways. The same is true, sadly, about suicide. There are so many ways that Belcher could have killed himself, including crashing his car at a high rate of speed into a wall or even another car as he drove to Arrowhead Stadium.
What Bob Costas ignored on Sunday is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year.
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Unfortunately, pointing to two deaths here does nothing to advance the case for gun control. Costas’ rant falls under the category of if gun control could save just one life it would be worth it. The argument makes as much sense as saying we shouldn’t have gun control if guns can save one life.
The question is the net effect of guns, and what Costas ignores is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year. And that's not even mentioning the roughly 2 million times a year that people use guns defensively.
Whether people like Costas like it or not the facts speak for themselves: Murder rates consistently rise when guns are banned. This is not just a US phenomenon in places such as Washington, DC and Chicago, but has been observed worldwide. When guns are banned, even in island nations such as the UK, Ireland, and Jamaica, the pattern has been the same. The problem is that gun bans disarm law-abiding good people, not criminals. With disarmed victims, crime is easier to commit.
Gun control advocates frequently point out that the majority of murders are committed by acquaintances, trying to make people fearful of letting relatives have access to guns. But this claim regarding domestic violence irresponsibly makes people afraid of those who they have no reason to be afraid of. What isn’t mentioned by these same advocates is that most of these acquaintances are not people who are emotionally close to each other. They involve rival gang members who know each other. Acquaintance murders also include prostitutes and their pimps or Johns as well as cab drivers who are murdered by their fares.
To put it bluntly, criminals are not typical citizens. About 90 percent of adult murderers have an adult criminal record. They tend to have low IQs and long histories of social problems. Murders are also very heavily concentrated among minorities in urban areas. Over 70 percent of murders occur in about 3 percent of the counties in the US. Even if our country passed laws banning guns, most of these murderers are not the kind of people who are going to voluntarily turn in their weapons.
If women want to protect themselves, they should get a gun. The FBI’s National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that by far the safest course of action for women to take when they are confronted by a criminal is to have a gun.
There are two groups of people who benefit the most from gun ownership: people who are weaker physically (women and the elderly) and those who are most likely to be victims of violent crime (primarily poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas).
The research by economistsoverwhelmingly shows that gun ownership has no impact on suicide rates. To the extent that gun control has any impact, restrictions just change the way in which the suicide is committed.
Bob Costas’ emotional reaction to the deaths of Belcher and Perkins is understandable, even if a rant on gun control during a football game is misplaced. But hopefully cooler heads will prevail before we enact laws that will unintentionally lead to more deaths.
John R. Lott, Jr. is a FoxNews.com contributor. He is an economist and author of "More Guns, Less Crime." He is co-author of the just released “Debacle: Obama's War on Jobs and Growth and What We Can Do Now to Regain Our Future” (John Wiley & Sons, March 2012). Follow him on Twitter@johnrlottjr.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/03/truth-about-costas-belcher-and-guns/#ixzz2E1JOyqHt
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/03/truth-about-costas-belcher-and-guns/
Belcher apparently killed Perkins, the 22-year-old mother of his 3-month-old daughter, at home. The horrible tragedy occurred in front of Perkins’ mom. He then drove to the Chiefs' practice facility where he committed suicide.
Guns can make it easier to kill people, but that isn’t relevant here. Even if no weapon existed, the strength differential is so large that Belcher could have easily killed Perkins in any number of ways. The same is true, sadly, about suicide. There are so many ways that Belcher could have killed himself, including crashing his car at a high rate of speed into a wall or even another car as he drove to Arrowhead Stadium.
What Bob Costas ignored on Sunday is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year.
-
Unfortunately, pointing to two deaths here does nothing to advance the case for gun control. Costas’ rant falls under the category of if gun control could save just one life it would be worth it. The argument makes as much sense as saying we shouldn’t have gun control if guns can save one life.
The question is the net effect of guns, and what Costas ignores is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year. And that's not even mentioning the roughly 2 million times a year that people use guns defensively.
Whether people like Costas like it or not the facts speak for themselves: Murder rates consistently rise when guns are banned. This is not just a US phenomenon in places such as Washington, DC and Chicago, but has been observed worldwide. When guns are banned, even in island nations such as the UK, Ireland, and Jamaica, the pattern has been the same. The problem is that gun bans disarm law-abiding good people, not criminals. With disarmed victims, crime is easier to commit.
Gun control advocates frequently point out that the majority of murders are committed by acquaintances, trying to make people fearful of letting relatives have access to guns. But this claim regarding domestic violence irresponsibly makes people afraid of those who they have no reason to be afraid of. What isn’t mentioned by these same advocates is that most of these acquaintances are not people who are emotionally close to each other. They involve rival gang members who know each other. Acquaintance murders also include prostitutes and their pimps or Johns as well as cab drivers who are murdered by their fares.
To put it bluntly, criminals are not typical citizens. About 90 percent of adult murderers have an adult criminal record. They tend to have low IQs and long histories of social problems. Murders are also very heavily concentrated among minorities in urban areas. Over 70 percent of murders occur in about 3 percent of the counties in the US. Even if our country passed laws banning guns, most of these murderers are not the kind of people who are going to voluntarily turn in their weapons.
If women want to protect themselves, they should get a gun. The FBI’s National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that by far the safest course of action for women to take when they are confronted by a criminal is to have a gun.
There are two groups of people who benefit the most from gun ownership: people who are weaker physically (women and the elderly) and those who are most likely to be victims of violent crime (primarily poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas).
The research by economistsoverwhelmingly shows that gun ownership has no impact on suicide rates. To the extent that gun control has any impact, restrictions just change the way in which the suicide is committed.
Bob Costas’ emotional reaction to the deaths of Belcher and Perkins is understandable, even if a rant on gun control during a football game is misplaced. But hopefully cooler heads will prevail before we enact laws that will unintentionally lead to more deaths.
John R. Lott, Jr. is a FoxNews.com contributor. He is an economist and author of "More Guns, Less Crime." He is co-author of the just released “Debacle: Obama's War on Jobs and Growth and What We Can Do Now to Regain Our Future” (John Wiley & Sons, March 2012). Follow him on Twitter@johnrlottjr.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/03/truth-about-costas-belcher-and-guns/#ixzz2E1JOyqHt
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/03/truth-about-costas-belcher-and-guns/
Originally Posted By: jldollI like football, and I open carry. I am very set in my way's. I will never again watch any football that has Bob Costa on with it. We must hit advertisers in the pocket book.
how about boycotting the entire nfl AND thier sponsors for letting that jack wagon spew his political crap?
how about boycotting the entire nfl AND thier sponsors for letting that jack wagon spew his political crap?
Orneryolfart357
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CNN just posted a story, with a Poll... lets flood them with our answers!
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/03/a-g...cide/?hpt=hp_c1
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/03/a-g...cide/?hpt=hp_c1
wilydawg
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One could only hope that Costas will pay a big price for exploiting his position as a national sportscaster to further his personal political agenda, but with the MSM's history on this kind of thing, we all know that justice won't be served. Just the same, I voted in their poll. Here are the latest results...looks like the majority agrees he was out of line...
Thank you for voting!
Yes, I'm glad someone finally said something. 37.51% (10,624 votes)
No, guns aren't the issue. 62.49% (17,701 votes)
Total Votes: 28,325
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No, I tuned in to watch football, not debate the politics of gun control. 68.18% (16,893 votes)
Yes, this is a conversation that needs to be had wherever it can take place. 31.82% (7,885 votes)
Total Votes: 24,778
Thank you for voting!
Yes, I'm glad someone finally said something. 37.51% (10,624 votes)
No, guns aren't the issue. 62.49% (17,701 votes)
Total Votes: 28,325
Comments (34) Return To PollCreate Your Own Poll
Thank you for voting!
No, I tuned in to watch football, not debate the politics of gun control. 68.18% (16,893 votes)
Yes, this is a conversation that needs to be had wherever it can take place. 31.82% (7,885 votes)
Total Votes: 24,778
Mr Potato Head
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You gotta remember CNN and it's viewers are almost as far to the left as you can get. I'm surprised it's 60/40.
derbyacresbob
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From now on as soon as Faith Hill is done singing on Sunday Night Football
, I will change the channel!
Orneryolfart357
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I wrote to the NFL as well. Asking them their stance in this situation. Should be interesting if anything happens.
Orneryolfart357
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I havent heard/seen any comments from Costas yet, but others are trying to speak for Him.
Monday, NBC spokesman Hughes added that Costas is "in favor of people owning guns to hunt and carrying them in reasonably controlled circumstances."
Can you say: Backpeddling?
Monday, NBC spokesman Hughes added that Costas is "in favor of people owning guns to hunt and carrying them in reasonably controlled circumstances."
Can you say: Backpeddling?
screech
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Does anyone ever get the feeling that we as hunters and trappers and legal gun owners are slowly but surely becoming the minority in this country?
I'm VERY concerned about this, but the responsibilty lies with us.
We need to EDUCATE our kids, our grandkids, our neighbors kids!!! Whatever it takes, we need to get these kids back outdoors and the heck away from their Ipads and Iphones and video games... away from the TV !!!
Look, if we just sit back and spout off about whats wrong with this and whats wrong with that but then turn around and sit on the couch and watch TV instead of taking the kids camping or hiking, fishing or hunting then we too are to blame .. if you only have an hour when you get home from work, take them out back and look for animal tracks, scat ect.. GET THEM INVOLVED!!
Get involved yourself, back organizations like the NRA .. STAND UP for what you believe in !!
I'm VERY concerned about this, but the responsibilty lies with us.
We need to EDUCATE our kids, our grandkids, our neighbors kids!!! Whatever it takes, we need to get these kids back outdoors and the heck away from their Ipads and Iphones and video games... away from the TV !!!
Look, if we just sit back and spout off about whats wrong with this and whats wrong with that but then turn around and sit on the couch and watch TV instead of taking the kids camping or hiking, fishing or hunting then we too are to blame .. if you only have an hour when you get home from work, take them out back and look for animal tracks, scat ect.. GET THEM INVOLVED!!
Get involved yourself, back organizations like the NRA .. STAND UP for what you believe in !!
I read that as saying they support more gun control and only the "right" people should own guns.
Backpedaling while maintaining FORWARD momentum for the cause is SPIN in order to placate and diffuse. Tacit approval of the meme which is stricter gun control is required.
T2G
Backpedaling while maintaining FORWARD momentum for the cause is SPIN in order to placate and diffuse. Tacit approval of the meme which is stricter gun control is required.
T2G
