Kiss Your Freedoms Goodbye If Health Care Passes

Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:Also how do you feel about being fined and put in jail if you don't have a acceptable insurance coverage? here’s an interesting article on that theory. http://mediamatters.org/research/200911070007


Media matters? Are they as unbiased as Wiki and Snopes? Read the bill. Fail to buy insurance and you'll be fined and or jailed.
 
Originally Posted By: redeyeddawg Read the bill. Fail to buy insurance and you'll be fined and or jailed.
have you read the bill?
 
yes we need to tweak the health care system, but not a complete over haul. This whole idea is crazy.

One question I have to ask Rim_Runner are you related to Harry reid or Nancy Pelosi, sure sounds like it.
 
Originally Posted By: STUMP49yes we need to tweak the health care system, but not a complete over haul. This whole idea is crazy.

One question I have to ask Rim_Runner are you related to Harry reid or Nancy Pelosi, sure sounds like it.
I think that both of them are a great asset to the GOP.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:RR, tell me how long you think the Insurance companies will be able to compete with tax subsidized Gov't mandated Insurance?
They should be able to do fine by making people a better offer. Wouldn’t this be a perfect opportunity for them to prove that the free market can out perform a Gov backed option? Are you suggesting that the Gov can do something right?

The Gov't tax subsidized insurance isn't competition for the insurance companies it's designed to run them out of business. Once all of the insurance companies are out of business then you totally lose your choice, thats the plan. Name me some examples of the Gov't run businesses that are doing it right. Amtrak, Medicare, SS , USPS those are some examples of not doing it right.

Quote:Of course then there will be rationing of health care based on what a bunch of beaurocrats decide if you are worth the expense or not.
But you’re OK with the current system where the insurance companies do this now?


The system right now isn't broke and works pretty well. Wait till its Gov't run and you have no recourse to their mandate. You will be sorry.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:Also how do you feel about being fined and put in jail if you don't have a acceptable insurance coverage? here’s an interesting article on that theory. http://mediamatters.org/research/200911070007

Thats really dancing around but ending up with the same result. If you don't have acceptable insurance and refuse to buy the Gov'ts then they tax you and you go to jail for not paying the tax. Samo, Samo.
 
Originally Posted By: STUMP49yes we need to tweak the health care system, but not a complete over haul. This whole idea is crazy.

One question I have to ask Rim_Runner are you related to Harry reid or Nancy Pelosi, sure sounds like it.

He does have a poo sea for an avatar!
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Rim_Runner after reading all your gobble -de- goop I think all you are is just a big pot stirer. You just enjoy stiring the pot, and like to get reaction.
 
Let me say this, if I'm forced to pay for this BS healthcare I,m gonna use it. Ive seen a doctor about 3 times in 30+ years. I,ll be seing a doctor 3 times a week and so will a whole bunch of folks that I know. You can take that to the bank!!!!!
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Quote:The Gov't tax subsidized insurance isn't competition for the insurance companies it's designed to run them out of business. Once all of the insurance companies are out of business then you totally lose your choice, thats the plan. and you have proof of that. You may need to loosen the straps on your tin foil hat a bit.


Quote:Name me some examples of the Gov't run businesses that are doing it right. Amtrak, Medicare, SS , USPS those are some examples of not doing it right. if the gov. is so incompetent the insurance companies don’t have anything to worry about. As far as your 4 examples, what private firms are doing the same things on the same scale? Who do you compare to?
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitOriginally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:Also how do you feel about being fined and put in jail if you don't have a acceptable insurance coverage? here’s an interesting article on that theory. http://mediamatters.org/research/200911070007

Thats really dancing around but ending up with the same result. If you don't have acceptable insurance and refuse to buy the Gov'ts then they tax you and you go to jail for not paying the tax. Samo, Samo. So why didn’t your source describe it as it is instead of the misleading statements?
 
Originally Posted By: STUMP49Rim_Runner after reading all your gobble -de- goop I think all you are is just a big pot stirer. You just enjoy stiring the pot, and like to get reaction.
Does it bother you that someone might not agree with you?
 
According to people that can count votes, a public option is dead in the senate. If that is true, this bill becomes another entitlement program that we will struggle to sustain. The insurance lobby is not going to allow a public option.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerOriginally Posted By: jumprightinitOriginally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:Also how do you feel about being fined and put in jail if you don't have a acceptable insurance coverage? here’s an interesting article on that theory. http://mediamatters.org/research/200911070007

Thats really dancing around but ending up with the same result. If you don't have acceptable insurance and refuse to buy the Gov'ts then they tax you and you go to jail for not paying the tax. Samo, Samo. So why didn’t your source describe it as it is instead of the misleading statements?

It's easier to understand that way with out all of the spin.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:The Gov't tax subsidized insurance isn't competition for the insurance companies it's designed to run them out of business. Once all of the insurance companies are out of business then you totally lose your choice, thats the plan. and you have proof of that. You may need to loosen the straps on your tin foil hat a bit. Quote:

It is simple enough to figure out given the laws spelled out in the bill.

Name me some examples of the Gov't run businesses that are doing it right. Amtrak, Medicare, SS , USPS those are some examples of not doing it right.

if the gov. is so incompetent the insurance companies don’t have anything to worry about. As far as your 4 examples, what private firms are doing the same things on the same scale? Who do you compare to?


Obviously the Gov't doesn't have to be competent to run a business that can only go broke when the taxpayers run out of money. Once that happens then the whole economy collapses and we move onto the next step of the socialist takeover.


Who's doing the same things on the same scale? Well UPS,Fedex, Burlington Northern , the insurance companies come to mind, they are all making profits which point to successful open market practices and not towards incompetent Gov't run businesses.
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitIt's easier to understand that way with out all of the spin.
Nonsense, that’s not leaving out the spin it’s distorting the facts.
 
Quote:Who's doing the same things on the same scale? Well UPS,Fedex, Burlington Northern , the insurance companies come to mind, they are all making profits which point to successful open market practices and not towards incompetent Gov't run businesses. UPS and FedEx handle packages how much of there business is non-package. Like letters, Post cards and things like that? How much passenger service does Burlington Northern provide? And most interesting, why do you hate the Government so bad?
 
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