Originally Posted By: Duane@ssuI'm gonna let this run, so long as it can be a "discussion", not a big o'le pissin contest.
If you live in a place where "dogmen" are trying to run coyotes on "50 to 100 acre peices", I feel for ya.
As for dogmen making any difference in calling, it is an old wifes tale, as for callers making any difference in the dog running, that also is an old wives tale.
The only time any type of dog work affects calling, is when guys call with decoy dogs, and yotes are called into the dogs, then run out of the country, and not killed.
Not to be a jerk, but I hunt dogs , and call year round, and have for years. I know "alittle" about this subject.
If the landowners around you "hate dogmen", maybe you need to be a better "salesman", and explain to them that you only call, no use of dogs, might get your foot in the door.
I on the other hand, stake my reputation on killing every yote I can on a ranch, and make it very clear that I will use dogs, traps, snares, and spotlights to get it done.
I am welcomed with open arms, and hot coffee.
The difference is I only wanna hunt 4000 acres or more.The last thing I want is my dogs on a "little peice".
Duane
As far as dogs affecting the "calling", I agree. My original post was kind of in jest until that guy took some great exception with it. I clearly stated that it wasn't directed at every hound hunter. In the area that I live, there simply arent many large parcels of property. The normal method that the dog guys use is to post people all over the place on the roads, turn the dogs loose on a little piece of property that they might have permission to hunt on, and wait for the coyote to cross the road somewhere. Then when confronted by a landowner, they claim that the dogs cant read posted signs. Of course, this lets them off the hook with the DEC as well.
Thats what happens here, which is vastly different than places with "ranches" and "ranges". I certainly have nothing against houndsmen. I grew up running coons. The difference is that coons dont run a dog for 5 miles, and I wont hunt on private property without permission. I think running yotes with dogs is a blast, but around these parts it gives all hunters a bad name.