Recurves here,, Hoyt gamemaster and my old shakespere. Both 50 pounders. Taken quite a few deer with the two. Last year i decided i wanted to take a coyote with one. Didn't work out so well though. Out of 16 called in, only got two shots,,,,neither found fur. Decided that i don't want to make em any smarter than they already are, so i'm leaving the curves at home now when i call..