Past Versus Present Americans

About 2yrs. ago I was looking for ST trailer tires for a boat trailer, NO trailer tire was available that was manufactured in the US, I mean NONE, since then I believe Goodyear has brought their Marathon back to be manufactured in the US.
There was no option to buy USA made ST trailer tires, they weren't available and it seemed like everyone was complaining about the "CHINA BOMBS" that they were being forced to buy, the highest rated ST tire was a Maxxis, and those were made in Taiwan!
How the H*** did we ever get to this point, never mind, I think I know!!!!
 
I have leather couches with tags on the bottom that read "MADE IN THE U.S.A." and they're no better than the garbage Levinn sells.

American made products are seemingly three times the cost of imports, and sometimes are only marginably better. I can't blame people for buying imports.

The last time I tried buying local, I spent all day driving around looking for something no one carried. So, I ordered online. I do 90% of my shopping online, because I don't have a lot of options around me. Not to mention, why would I order through a store, then go back and pick it up, when I could just do that myself?
 
When walmart goes into a small rural area like mine, they will of course put the local small business out of business within a few years. Is it wrong, yes of course it's wrong and of course it's part of the walmart plan just like any other mega store chain.

Whats just as wrong are the people who sit in front of their computer telling us we are stupid because we shop there. In this area we have people who have to drive 70-80+ miles ( from up the branch) just to get here to buy what they need, and they do that in a farm/ranch truck that might get 8-10 mpg. That's just the way it is.

If you want to buy something not from a mega store in this part of Oregon you might just as well drive to Boise, 165 miles away, or you can go to Portland 254 miles away, yes there are small towns in between but only mega stores there as well. The people here work for a living and can't take a whole day off and lose a days wages plus spend $100 or more on fuel just to find a different store.

And as for us old stupid people, ... yes we are here and here is where we plan to die. And [beeep] no it isn't anytime soon.
 
Originally Posted By: bluealteredWhen walmart goes into a small rural area like mine, they will of course put the local small business out of business within a few years. Is it wrong, yes of course it's wrong and of course it's part of the walmart plan just like any other mega store chain.

Whats just as wrong are the people who sit in front of their computer telling us we are stupid because we shop there. In this area we have people who have to drive 70-80+ miles ( from up the branch) just to get here to buy what they need, and they do that in a farm/ranch truck that might get 8-10 mpg. That's just the way it is.

If you want to buy something not from a mega store in this part of Oregon you might just as well drive to Boise, 165 miles away, or you can go to Portland 254 miles away, yes there are small towns in between but only mega stores there as well. The people here work for a living and can't take a whole day off and lose a days wages plus spend $100 or more on fuel just to find a different store.

And as for us old stupid people, ... yes we are here and here is where we plan to die. And [beeep] no it isn't anytime soon.

darn good post right there.^^^^^^

wonder if a certain farrier uses chinese made horse shoes and nails? lol
 
St. Croix Forge are pretty much the only shoes I buy, and they're made in MN. And all of my tools are made in USA.

The only thing from over seas are the two nail brands I use, Kerckhaert and Mustad are both from the Netherlands.
 
I know I would buy a firearm built in Czechoslovakia or Finland before I would buy from an American company. I don't give loyalty to a country, but a product when talking about spending my hard earned cash. I don't know where Duralast tools are made, but I can't justify the price of Mac and Snap-On for what I do. I'm also not going to buy my kids American made clothing to go roll around in the dirt with.

But, with Trump in office, we don't have to worry about buying American as much, because we're not getting raped by the Asians anymore, and he's bringing manufacturing jobs back. Our wealth ISN'T derived from buying American. It's derived from EXPORTING American.
 
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterI know I would buy a firearm built in Czechoslovakia or Finland before I would buy from an American company. I don't give loyalty to a country, but a product when talking about spending my hard earned cash. I don't know where Duralast tools are made, but I can't justify the price of Mac and Snap-On for what I do. I'm also not going to buy my kids American made clothing to go roll around in the dirt with.

But, with Trump in office, we don't have to worry about buying American as much, because we're not getting raped by the Asians anymore, and he's bringing manufacturing jobs back. Our wealth ISN'T derived from buying American. It's derived from EXPORTING American.

The 25% tariff on woodworking equipment starts in July. Today there are not many manufacturers of woodworking equipment, the major wood lathes are made in China, table saws, made in China, Bandsaws, made in China, and the list keeps growing. On July 6th, those pieces of equipment for my business will jump 25%, the extra 25% money will go to the US government, not China. Who is raping my profit margin???
 
Originally Posted By: dogcatcherOriginally Posted By: Flesh EaterI know I would buy a firearm built in Czechoslovakia or Finland before I would buy from an American company. I don't give loyalty to a country, but a product when talking about spending my hard earned cash. I don't know where Duralast tools are made, but I can't justify the price of Mac and Snap-On for what I do. I'm also not going to buy my kids American made clothing to go roll around in the dirt with.

But, with Trump in office, we don't have to worry about buying American as much, because we're not getting raped by the Asians anymore, and he's bringing manufacturing jobs back. Our wealth ISN'T derived from buying American. It's derived from EXPORTING American.

The 25% tariff on woodworking equipment starts in July. Today there are not many manufacturers of woodworking equipment, the major wood lathes are made in China, table saws, made in China, Bandsaws, made in China, and the list keeps growing. On July 6th, those pieces of equipment for my business will jump 25%, the extra 25% money will go to the US government, not China. Who is raping my profit margin???


Quit buying junk woodworking tools. Bosch, Festool, Fein, etc. aren't made in China and they last a LONG time.
 
Buying only made in USA is pretty much impossible and unrealistic but the overwhelming trend now is to buy cheap, and buy cheap again when the cheap stuff breaks. Almost nothing is made with quality anymore, it's just made with as many blinky lights as can be added. These big box stores didn't take over the market themselves, it took a cheap one-stop-shop attitude over the whole country for the past few decades to ruin small shops.

I work a job that makes it easy to stick to local tools and equipment, even the cheapest farrier's tools that you can buy at Fleet Farm or Runnings are made in the USA, I don't think the Chinese like horses... But it's also an old school trade, I still use hammers and hand tools that have been used for hundreds of years for the most part, most other trades have become a more more more, faster faster kind of business, almost nothing else is done the same as it was done 200 years ago.

I'm just going to practice what I preach, take a step back from this modern hustle and bustle to nowhere while eating chemical laden food. I put my house up for sale today, in hopefully less than 2 months I will be building my cordwood home and getting ready to live more off the land, not rely on money and expensive gadgets made to break in a year or two to get me through my day. And my young friends will be jealous, a couple are already talking about doing the same thing, and I will preach the virtues of living sustainably instead of the modern rat race that is so meaningless and unnatural.
 
I'd say you nailed it with that one word. A lot of it is about "attitude" and of course a well informed public. However, It is almost impossible to buy "made in USA" these days and that is a shame. A huge amount of manufacturing has left the country in favor of the globalist model while Americans have stood by idle and have allowed the cronies to take power, lie, bully and BS them into selling us out while at the same time small businesses which are the backbone of the American way of life are undermined and stifled at every corner with red tape, bureaucracy, regulations and taxes in order to make it extremely difficult for the average person. Not to be construed with big business (too big to fail fraudulent unconstitutional banking (think private federal reserve) corporations and monopolistic crony capitalism with crooks in gov who play favorites in areas they have absolutely no authority to be involved. We live in a place where endless opportunities, possibilities, and options exist, but is taken for granted because of the decades long corruption and indoctrination. In order to turn the current mentality back to where it should be takes a well informed public with an attitude and the determination for freedom and success... A major road block to this success is the indoctrination of the next generations with the ideology of karl marx to be evil little useful idiot snowflake schmucks and the idea that others who become successful and competitive is unfair and greedy (Unless of course you share the same libtard philosophy and opinions on social issues then, in that case all is fine and dandy.) Commies, fascists, neo-cons, and socialists are nothing more than greedy control freaks who love money, freedom, and capitalism, but only for themselves. Every tin pot dictator lives a life of prestige and luxury while the people of whom they rule over live in absolute misery.

I will also add that with freedom comes responsibility and that is something that is severely lacking in today's society.


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Those two last posts make very good points. Americans and the rest of the world have been taught for more generations than i can remember that you must have the fastest, newest, piece of junk from anywhere or you can't be happy. The best example i can think of is the smart phone, really? There's nothing smart about people buying a phone for $1000 and then buying it again and again six months later.

Plus lucky you, every single thing about your life is on it and then they act amazed when all that information is stolen! There's nothing smart about losing the ability to do simple math or spelling in their head instead of using a phone.

The only thing that keeps Americans sort of still free is the fact that we are armed to the teeth, however as is shown us every day the ability or desire to think is being lost to many Americans who would rather play games or do as told by anybody who profess's to be smarter than you are, why just look at your phone it will tell you their smarter.
 
Right. ^ Not all technology is bad, but it is how it is used. As far as smart phones they're not very good to talk on. From what I understand cell phones emit electromagnetic radiation. Some experts claim the frequency causes brain tumors and cancer.

 
Originally Posted By: Flesh Eater

Quit buying junk woodworking tools. Bosch, Festool, Fein, etc. aren't made in China and they last a LONG time.

Show me a bandsaw made either of these companies, or a 12 inch planer. Bosch has a lot of "Heche in Mexico" on their stuff, a tariff will also apply. Most of Fein is made in Germany, the tariffs will also apply, but they don't make the big floor tools we use neither do the others you list. Grizzly Tools is the place we prefer to buy from, reasonable price, good customer service and they have been quality tools.
 
Originally Posted By: dogcatcherOriginally Posted By: Flesh Eater

Quit buying junk woodworking tools. Bosch, Festool, Fein, etc. aren't made in China and they last a LONG time.

Show me a bandsaw made either of these companies, or a 12 inch planer. Bosch has a lot of "Heche in Mexico" on their stuff, a tariff will also apply. Most of Fein is made in Germany, the tariffs will also apply, but they don't make the big floor tools we use neither do the others you list. Grizzly Tools is the place we prefer to buy from, reasonable price, good customer service and they have been quality tools.

What’s wrong with these?

https://www.wellsaw.com
 
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterOriginally Posted By: dogcatcherOriginally Posted By: Flesh Eater

Quit buying junk woodworking tools. Bosch, Festool, Fein, etc. aren't made in China and they last a LONG time.

Show me a bandsaw made either of these companies, or a 12 inch planer. Bosch has a lot of "Heche in Mexico" on their stuff, a tariff will also apply. Most of Fein is made in Germany, the tariffs will also apply, but they don't make the big floor tools we use neither do the others you list. Grizzly Tools is the place we prefer to buy from, reasonable price, good customer service and they have been quality tools.

What’s wrong with these?

https://www.wellsaw.com

Those are for cutting metal, they wouldn't be worth the price of freight in a woodworking shop.
 
Isn't Wallmart an all American success story????? The sh*t that movies are made of. Probably employs more entitled 65+ people than any other employer in the USA.

None of you own anything American made. Name five modern things that cost over $100 in your entire house that is 100% manufactured in the USA?

Yes sir!..... I believe the word your searching for is called hypocrisy.
 
Originally Posted By: littledawgIsn't Wallmart an all American success story????? Probably employs more entitled 65+ people than any other employer in the USA.



what is the definition of an entitled 65+ person?
 
Originally Posted By: littledawgIsn't Wallmart an all American success story????? The sh*t that movies are made of. Probably employs more entitled 65+ people than any other employer in the USA.

None of you own anything American made. Name five modern things that cost over $100 in your entire house that is 100% manufactured in the USA?

Yes sir!..... I believe the word your searching for is called hypocrisy.

I got a Speed Queen washer purchased 2 years ago, and an American made hot water heater I replaced last year...
 
I think a lot of us can name more than a couple of things made in the USA in our homes. I can think of more than a dozen firearms just sitting around me to start with and that's not even moving out of this room.
So what is wrong with those over 65 wanting to still work? The past generations learned to work for living and some get bored and go back to work, others have lost everything and must go back to work.
 
Originally Posted By: bluealteredI think a lot of us can name more than a couple of things made in the USA in our homes. I can think of more than a dozen firearms just sitting around me to start with and that's not even moving out of this room.
So what is wrong with those over 65 wanting to still work? The past generations learned to work for living and some get bored and go back to work, others have lost everything and must go back to work.

People working past 65 stalls a lot of job markets. I'm sure I'll be guilty of it, too, but when you have some old guy relaxing at the top, it halts all forward promotions.
 
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