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#2626401 - 01/31/14 04:53 PM Setting up the stand with e-caller
Lady_yote Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 13
Loc: Washington, UT
I'm a 34 year old female and I've never had the slightest interest in hunting ....until now! The more and more I look into hunting coyote's, the more excited, challenged, and curious I become. I've learned so much from reading all of your posts and replies. I've also been reading/watching everything else I can find to learn from, anywhere I've been able to find it.

A few questions I have at this point are(feel free to answer any and/or all that you'd like):

How do you get into a stand and set up the e-caller without being noticed?

How do you know if you've been busted? And if so, is it completely game over for you in that area? Or just in that specific location?

How far do you move in between stands?

I've only been out a handful of times in the last month and I haven't gotten anything. Not one peep. I'm going to areas where the fish and game have shown that many came from last year so I think I'm in the right area, but how do I know for sure. I don't get discouraged easily and I'm not at this point, but what I don't want to be doing is wasting my time in areas where there's nothing. So I first need to find out if I'm doing something wrong in setting up my stand, so that I can determine if my location is worthwhile. I'm located in Southwest Utah if that helps with any ideas/tips anyone may have to offer. Thanks. smile
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I'm a 34 year old female and I've never had the slightest interest in hunting ....until now! The more and more I look into hunting coyote's, the more excited, challenged, and curious I become.

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#2626411 - 01/31/14 05:18 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
AZG Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 09/23/13
Posts: 183
Loc: Mohave County, Arizona
Welcome! Thats Awesome. Glad to see ladys taking to hunting.

for your first question. I leave the house about 5:45, arrive at my spot about an hour before first light, Not sun rise, First light, a good half hour before the sun actually comes up. Getting there at this time allows you to remain unseen but can be dangerous if you dont have a light. Usually a red filmed light will work and not give away your position but I have been known to use my iphone light to navigate to my spot. whatever you have should work fine, just dont go flashing it everywhere and give your position away. strictly use it for seeing directly in front of you. For later in the day, I try to find spots that have as much cover as possible so I can sneak into my spot. If I am close to a mountain, I will hug the mountain as I walk to my spot. Not out in the open. Sometimes you cant avoid it but the call has to be set so just do it as sneaky as possible, within reason, you dont need to be tippy toeing everywhere, just avoid stepping on sticks and kicking rocks and stuff as you walk. Try and be light footed. like ninja.

2nd question. I usually know im busted when I see a coyote walking away. If the wind is blowing in the direction of the yote you are hunting, you've probably been busted. If you make any movement and it sees you move, you're busted. Basically if you see the coyote moving in any direction that isnt toward you or circling toward your call, then you are busted. Keep in mind you position, your call, wind direction, and sunrise direction. coyotes cant see too well looking into the sun. Also not too great right before sunrise. You can usually tell your busted when the coyote suddenly changes directions and bolts like its startled.

3rd. I ususally go every 3-4 miles between stands. Thats how much territory the cover. Stand can last anywhere from 5-20 min in general but some yote take longer like 30-60 in pressured areas.

There are many many methods to hunting. Some people do speed stands, only spending 6 min a stand and if they dont see anything, they move on. My cousin only likes to stay between 5-10. I live 1.5 hours away and most areas around here you shouldnt expect to see anything before the 30 min mark. One spot I had recently near the lake, one came in at about :30 seconds. Its all about instinct. Play to their instincts. Sometimes when nothing comes, it doesnt mean you didnt call good, could just mean you arent calling at the right time, or in the right area. I believe yote are nomadic, moving from one area to another. Never staying on one area for more than a week or two. Alot of people scout in the daytime looking for poop and tracks and then they will hunt that spot the next morning. Some go out at night and howl for yotes and if they hear a reply they will hunt that spot, if not, they move on. My cousin and I, we just go out into the desert and find spots that dont look like they've been hunted before. we want the yote that run in on us. Not the ones that have been educated and are cautious, but dont get me wrong, we'll take whatever. but anyway, its all a learning game. Good luck. Happy hunting

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#2626413 - 01/31/14 05:19 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
WvDalt Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 22
Loc: West Virginia
first off welcome to predator hunting, youre in for some great times! I have been hunting those little buggers for awhile but just started seeing some success this year so i havent taken the dive into a great wealth of knowledge just yet, but i like to help the best i can. getting to your stand just needs to be done quitely and try to stay where the wind is in your favor, stick to background cover best you can too. as for being able to tell if youve been busted i dont know about that, possibly if you hear ccoyote vocalization and still arent calling them in you may have been busted but thre are other reasons for vocalization too lol and lastly is there any sign of coyote around where you hunt? such as tracks or scat? next time you go out just pay close attention and look for any signs. i always see tracks in the snow amd mud the best so if you can hit the woods when the white stuff out! hope i helped a little! goodluck!

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#2626431 - 01/31/14 05:57 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
Coyote Cruiser Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/19/10
Posts: 332
Loc: Gilbert AZ
IN: Be as quit as you can from truck to stand. Don't skyline yourself. If the wind is at your back walking in not good.

Busted: Sometimes they will bark most just leave. Set a time limit on your stands I do 15 minutes if nothing happens I scoot. Wind Wind WIND. Not getting busted is scent cone management and sitting still. Wary yotes will circle around to try and smell what's making all the racket. Watch downwind to try and kill'em before they can smell ya.

Between stands: In the truck a mile on foot 1/4 to 1/2 mile. On foot in rougher terrain the call doesn't carry as far.

When your out look for signs coyotes have been there. Tracks and scat are your best indicators. Go to your hunt area the night before try howling with the caller and listen for them. Hearing some are around will make you feel better. Find a fellow hunter and pay for some gas and beer and they might help ya.
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#2626437 - 01/31/14 06:07 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: AZG]
Lady_yote Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 13
Loc: Washington, UT
Are you walking that space between stands? Roughly how far away from your vehicle are your stands? How many different stands do you do in a day?

If they're barking at you from a distance, does that mean your busted and they're protecting their territory? I've never seen one at all while hunting, so I never even get to see them walking away. frown
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I'm a 34 year old female and I've never had the slightest interest in hunting ....until now! The more and more I look into hunting coyote's, the more excited, challenged, and curious I become.

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#2626473 - 01/31/14 07:02 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
Smokeless Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/25/09
Posts: 2995
Loc: Radiator Springs
Welcome to predator hunting! Lots of stands don't produce especially when you first start out.

Couple things to always keep in mind when picking a calling spot.
First is wind. Wind will bust you before anything else. Always try to keep the wind in your face, if you can, but never at your back. Even when it seems perfectly still and calm, there is still "wind" You can squirt chalk from a bottle or just pick up some dry dirt and let it sift to the ground watching close to the direction the dust moves. What ever way goes the dust, you want to hunt 100 to 180 degrees opposite to that.

Next is sun [when it applies] always keep the sun at your back when possible. This makes seeing for you much easier and seeing for the coyote much harder.

Then there is high ground. Always try to use the high ground in your call sets. You don't have to be super high but you should be elevated for clear view. Don't set your self up in a spot where you struggle to see [bushes, rocks, trees] stay up as much as possible.

Always walk into, and set up in your area. If you are covering country with a truck, then leave your truck as silent as possible, and in a place hidden from where you will set up. 100 or more yards from the truck.

Always keep a screen in your back drop. Never skyline a hill. Skirt around the side of a hill far enough down that your head is still below the top of the hill. Use brush trees or whatever is there to keep your outline broken up at all times possible. When the set up location is picked, always make sure that something is behind you. A tree, rock, or some natural formation that will hide your outline.

Also after I have gotten set up, I sit still and quiet for about 10-15 minutes before starting my call. If you were seen going in, giving just a little time before calling helps them to respond.

I hunt in pretty open mountainous country. So my sets are always at least one mile apart. In dense cover like flat forest or flat and heavy brush I would shorten my call distance to 1/2 mile or so. They hear very well and a looong ways away.

Hope some of this makes sense and is helpful. Don't give up. If you know someone with coyote hunting experience see if they will take you out for even just a couple sets and explain what they are doing and why. It will speed up your learning curve.

Also for just coyote, I usually do not call for more than 30 minutes. If bobcat is known in the area waiting another 15 or so minutes can produce a cat. They can come in slow to the call and can be very patient about it.

Always scout your area prior to hunting, Look for scat and tracks. Without sign of coyote there usually is no coyote.

Good luck! Enjoy.
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#2626490 - 01/31/14 07:35 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
Fursniper Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1934
Loc: AZ
Welcome to Predator Masters. It's great to have more female hunters here. Good luck and good hunting!
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#2626519 - 01/31/14 08:31 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
bignasty Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/17/12
Posts: 493
Loc: Tucson Arizona
Welcome to PM

go to predator university on you tube tony has some great videos on predator hunting also watch some of Randy Anderson's videos

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#2626535 - 01/31/14 08:49 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
weekender Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 3548
Loc: NC
Welcome, glad to see more women take up the sport.

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#2626556 - 01/31/14 09:16 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
GTOHunter Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/08/12
Posts: 1437
Loc: Southeast Missouri
Welcome to Predator Masters!

Stay after the Coyotes,listen,read and ask questions and enjoy the time outdoors....eventually You will get Yourself a Coyote and it will all be worth the time and effort You put into Hunting,Lots of great info above!
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#2626630 - 01/31/14 10:38 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
KyleCoyote Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 09/11/12
Posts: 213
Loc: WY USA
I sent you a PM i am in Utah, and i've been looking for people to go with. I'm still relatively new but i know a thing or two.

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#2626641 - 01/31/14 10:52 PM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
shankbone Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 960
Loc: OR
Originally Posted By: Lady_yote
Are you walking that space between stands? Roughly how far away from your vehicle are your stands? How many different stands do you do in a day?

If they're barking at you from a distance, does that mean your busted and they're protecting their territory? I've never seen one at all while hunting, so I never even get to see them walking away. frown


If they're barking, you're probably busted. I've had one come in after barking, but it was a game of cat and mouse...or so it seemed to me.

As for your other questions, I really suggest you check out a few predator hunting DVDs, namely Tony Tebbe's. Have fun and stay after 'em. If you pay attention to every stand, you'll learn quickly and be in 'em in short time.


Edited by shankbone (01/31/14 10:56 PM)

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#2626671 - 02/01/14 12:06 AM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
Lady_yote Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 13
Loc: Washington, UT
I went out again tonight frown still nothing. And then it started raining pretty hard so I called it a night. Thank you for all the good tips, I've been taking notes so I won't forget all this good stuff. I have looked up as many videos as I can find on youtube but haven't come across Tony Tebbe's. I'll definitely check that out and others. Thanks again boys.
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I'm a 34 year old female and I've never had the slightest interest in hunting ....until now! The more and more I look into hunting coyote's, the more excited, challenged, and curious I become.

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#2626682 - 02/01/14 12:34 AM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Lady_yote]
Smokeless Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/25/09
Posts: 2995
Loc: Radiator Springs
The other thing I will say is, preparation is key.

Have you pre scouted your hunting sets? You should if your not.

I like to hunt part of a day then scout for future hunts the rest of the day. Look for sign. The fresher the better. You need to know coyotes are where you set and you should have your location picked for wind, visibility, and access before you arrive for your hunt.

Scouting is as much about the hunt as the hunt its self.
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#2626703 - 02/01/14 02:03 AM Re: Setting up the stand with e-caller [Re: Smokeless]
bobalong Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/03/11
Posts: 43
Loc: Alberta
Some really good suggestions have been given already. I am fortunate in the fact that there is very little pressure in the area I hunt. Wind and keeping your mode of transportation out of site are probably two of the most important things where I hunt. I could mention movement but to me that is given for any kind of hunting, varmit, big game or waterfowl. Lots of hills and bush where I hunt so concealing our vehicle is fairly easy, within a short distance to our setup. I would say that 90% of the coyotes we get come out in the first five minutes, I rarely stay in any set more than 30 minutes.
One my sons got this one a few weeks back, this one showed itself in about two minutes, pretty common where we hunt.

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