I just read a report that the NRAs facebook page and twitter account has went black since Fridays shooting. Why are they not responding to all this gun control talk. They said that it is not believed that Facebook blocked there page but when asked about it they said no comment. Hmmm???? Things are getting a little fishy around here. heres the link hope it works for you. www.nbcnews.com/.../technolog/nra-​facebook-page-goes-dark
Where is the NRA??
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O'Reilley tonight also claimed that the NRA declined his invitation to appear on his show. Considering he's actually one of the more reasonable media figures regarding gun control right now, I believe that was a major mistake on the NRA's part. We need our position out there. I'm an NRA endowment member, but don't feel like my organization is out there representing me right now.
Right after the Co. movie masacre, O'Reilly made a grossly inaccurate statement (IIRC in reference to "assault weapons"). I took the time, as did others, to write him requesting a correction, which was completely ignored. O'Reilly is not our friend!
I have been an NRA member for 60 years (life member since 1961, currently Benefactor member) and they are the best hope we have in these troubled times. I suspect they are waiting to see which direction the chips fall before playing their hand. I'm sure they are working behind the scenes to mitigate the damage done in this tragedy foisted upon helpless children and several heroic adults by a mentally deficient individual. Give them a chance to work for us, DR, and thanks for your support of the most powerful pro-gun organization we have working for us.
Regards,
hm
I have been an NRA member for 60 years (life member since 1961, currently Benefactor member) and they are the best hope we have in these troubled times. I suspect they are waiting to see which direction the chips fall before playing their hand. I'm sure they are working behind the scenes to mitigate the damage done in this tragedy foisted upon helpless children and several heroic adults by a mentally deficient individual. Give them a chance to work for us, DR, and thanks for your support of the most powerful pro-gun organization we have working for us.
Regards,
hm
Rocky1
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Nothing the NRA can say or do at the moment is going to help anything, 5 minutes after this story broke there were hate posts against the NRA all over the web. And, as long as the media keeps feeding the sharks, with this incessant rerunning of nothing over and over and over, there's not a lot they can say honestly. I left the house around 8:30 yesterday morning, they were setting up for a news conference, when I stopped for lunch at noon, they were still taping microphones to the podium and waiting on the news conference. I truly feel sorry for the families, but if you don't have any damm news to report, play a commercial!! Quit drumming up support for the anti-gun crowd.
Bob Tobergte
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I'm the NRA!
The whole thing is running on emotion & hate, stoked by certain media & political leaders. The NRA leaders received death threats & website service interruptions. It is very difficult to discuss the issue rationally with an emotional crowd. It is perhaps the best strategy to remain low profile until all funerals are complete and emotion comes back to a level where we can avoid knee jerk legislation and coming off as unsympathetic.
I recognize the media will paint the issue in an unflattering light for gun owners and bolster the anti case no matter what. But, we should not deal with the emotion & hate.
T2G
I recognize the media will paint the issue in an unflattering light for gun owners and bolster the anti case no matter what. But, we should not deal with the emotion & hate.
T2G
Originally Posted By: Tommy2GunThe whole thing is running on emotion & hate, stoked by certain media & political leaders. The NRA leaders received death threats & website service interruptions. It is very difficult to discuss the issue rationally with an emotional crowd. It is perhaps the best strategy to remain low profile until all funerals are complete and emotion comes back to a level where we can avoid knee jerk legislation and coming off as unsympathetic.
I recognize the media will paint the issue in an unflattering light for gun owners and bolster the anti case no matter what. But, we should not deal with the emotion & hate.
T2G
Well stated, T2G! Here is a good example of which you speak. Pardon the language, it it theirs, not mine.
http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/12/gun-ow...-violent-thugs/
Regards,
hm
I recognize the media will paint the issue in an unflattering light for gun owners and bolster the anti case no matter what. But, we should not deal with the emotion & hate.
T2G
Well stated, T2G! Here is a good example of which you speak. Pardon the language, it it theirs, not mine.
http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/12/gun-ow...-violent-thugs/
Regards,
hm
You guys make good points, but I think that total silence is the worst thing the NRA can do. There is a lot of emotion, and it will inevitably result in firearms restrictions, but the truth has to be out there. O'Reilley isn't our friend, but he honestly gave the gun rights groups a chance to appear on his show and make the case. The NRA declined. Having that publically stated to millions of viewers made the NRA, and by extension millions of law-abiding gun owners, appear as cowards. Wayne LaPierre or Chris Cox should have been there reinforcing the notion that the NRA supports only legislation that restricts firearms from those that shouldn't have them, not from those of us that should and must. The fellow from the Second Amendment Foundation (or something like that) made good points and was (by and large) treated fairly by O'Reilley. Wayne or Chris should have been there too. They owe it to us.
frozenbutt
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They just released a statement on their site according to their facebook status but their site went down shortly after.
Orneryolfart357
New member
I also believe that the NRA is sitting back and gathering the info on the shooting before fighting back. Right now with everyone suffering from Knee Jerk reactions, it may be a good strategy?
frozenbutt
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Fox new has something up about it. Something about giving families time to mourn.
Thats alot more then the anti's did.
Thats alot more then the anti's did.
Orneryolfart357
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As Rocky reported earlier.. Media.. Give it a rest! I would think that the last thing "if I were a parent involved" turning on the news and being reminded daily. Thats all that is in the news for crying outloud.
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NRA to 'push back' soon, schedules news conference
By James Rosen
Published December 18, 2012
FoxNews.com
Dec. 17, 2012: Protesters rally against the National Rifle Association on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)
Amid the tidal wave of shock and grief that followed the mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., the gun-control lobby immediately launched a well-coordinated campaign to pressure Congress and the Obama administration into enacting stricter regulation of guns and rifles.
These forces -- led by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. -- had the playing field largely to themselves.
That is soon to change.
A statement released late Tuesday by the Fairfax, Va.-based organization announced that it would hold a "major" news conference on Friday. Issued by an aide to NRA President Wayne LaPierre, the statement also conveyed condolences for the murders and expressed the group's willingness to offer "meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."
"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters -- and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the statement said.
"Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting."
Sources close to the issue had earlier alerted Fox News that the National Rifle Association -- which has remained silent since Newtown, chiefly to allow for a proper period for mourning -- would soon start to "push back" against the gun-control lobby.
"If we're going to have a conversation, then let's have a comprehensive conversation," said one industry source. "If we're going to talk about the Second Amendment, then let's also talk about the First Amendment, and Hollywood, and the video games that teach young kids how to shoot heads.
"If you really want to stop incidents like this," the source continued, "passing one more law is not going to do a [beeep] thing. Columbine happened when? In 1999. Smack in the middle of the original assault-weapons ban."
Indications that the NRA would soon end its period of self-imposed post-Newtown silence came after Feinstein announced her plan to introduce an updated version of the assault-weapons ban that she steered to passage in 1994, and which expired a decade later.
"I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation," Feinstein said in a statement issued Monday. "It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns ... while protecting the rights of gun owners."
Feinstein said her legislation will outlaw the sale, import and manufacture of more than 100 different firearms, including "semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than ten rounds."
The measure would also ban the sale, import and manufacture of "large-capacity ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips and drums) capable of accepting more than ten rounds."
To protect legal gun owners, the Feinstein measure would "grandfather in" those weapons legally owned at the time the measure would become law. It would also exempt antiques, manually operated weapons, permanently disabled weapons, and more than 900 specifically named firearms commonly used for hunting and sporting.
Industry sources acknowledged that public sentiment after Newtown is unlike that which followed similar attacks over the past decade, because of the presence of so many children among the victims -- and that the NRA will likely face a tougher climate in which to try to forestall the enactment of tighter gun control measures.
But they also indicated that Feinstein's provisions relating to the number of rounds a weapon can accommodate will be contested fiercely. "A standard semi-automatic handgun holds 12 to 14 rounds," one source close to the issue told Fox News. "Everyone would have to retool and new hardware would have to be made. That's going to be very expensive to manufacturers."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/nra-to-push-back-soon-sources-say/#ixzz2FRny7hB2
Regards,
hm
NRA to 'push back' soon, schedules news conference
By James Rosen
Published December 18, 2012
FoxNews.com
Dec. 17, 2012: Protesters rally against the National Rifle Association on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)
Amid the tidal wave of shock and grief that followed the mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., the gun-control lobby immediately launched a well-coordinated campaign to pressure Congress and the Obama administration into enacting stricter regulation of guns and rifles.
These forces -- led by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. -- had the playing field largely to themselves.
That is soon to change.
A statement released late Tuesday by the Fairfax, Va.-based organization announced that it would hold a "major" news conference on Friday. Issued by an aide to NRA President Wayne LaPierre, the statement also conveyed condolences for the murders and expressed the group's willingness to offer "meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."
"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters -- and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the statement said.
"Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting."
Sources close to the issue had earlier alerted Fox News that the National Rifle Association -- which has remained silent since Newtown, chiefly to allow for a proper period for mourning -- would soon start to "push back" against the gun-control lobby.
"If we're going to have a conversation, then let's have a comprehensive conversation," said one industry source. "If we're going to talk about the Second Amendment, then let's also talk about the First Amendment, and Hollywood, and the video games that teach young kids how to shoot heads.
"If you really want to stop incidents like this," the source continued, "passing one more law is not going to do a [beeep] thing. Columbine happened when? In 1999. Smack in the middle of the original assault-weapons ban."
Indications that the NRA would soon end its period of self-imposed post-Newtown silence came after Feinstein announced her plan to introduce an updated version of the assault-weapons ban that she steered to passage in 1994, and which expired a decade later.
"I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation," Feinstein said in a statement issued Monday. "It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns ... while protecting the rights of gun owners."
Feinstein said her legislation will outlaw the sale, import and manufacture of more than 100 different firearms, including "semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than ten rounds."
The measure would also ban the sale, import and manufacture of "large-capacity ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips and drums) capable of accepting more than ten rounds."
To protect legal gun owners, the Feinstein measure would "grandfather in" those weapons legally owned at the time the measure would become law. It would also exempt antiques, manually operated weapons, permanently disabled weapons, and more than 900 specifically named firearms commonly used for hunting and sporting.
Industry sources acknowledged that public sentiment after Newtown is unlike that which followed similar attacks over the past decade, because of the presence of so many children among the victims -- and that the NRA will likely face a tougher climate in which to try to forestall the enactment of tighter gun control measures.
But they also indicated that Feinstein's provisions relating to the number of rounds a weapon can accommodate will be contested fiercely. "A standard semi-automatic handgun holds 12 to 14 rounds," one source close to the issue told Fox News. "Everyone would have to retool and new hardware would have to be made. That's going to be very expensive to manufacturers."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/nra-to-push-back-soon-sources-say/#ixzz2FRny7hB2
Regards,
hm
Rocky1
New member
Determined where my local media stands... Advised them that my god fearing, church going every time the doors are open, 78 year old mother-in-law asked me to change the channel because they aren't reporting anything new they are simply running the story into the ground. And, asked why they haven't reported on the Connecticut Assault Weapons Ban. Sent to management, the producer, and the news desk... Still no mention of it, and no reply to my e-mail.
Tim7581
New member
WASHINGTON (AP) — The National Rifle Association is breaking its silence four days after a school shooting in Newtown, Conn., where 26 were killed, including 20 children.
The nation's largest gun rights organization made its first public statements Tuesday after a self-imposed media blackout that left many wondering how it would respond to the killings. In its statement, the group said its members were, quoting, "shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders."
The group also said it wanted to give families time to mourn before making its first public statements. The organization pledged "to help to make sure this never happens again" and has scheduled a news conference for Friday.
The nation's largest gun rights organization made its first public statements Tuesday after a self-imposed media blackout that left many wondering how it would respond to the killings. In its statement, the group said its members were, quoting, "shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders."
The group also said it wanted to give families time to mourn before making its first public statements. The organization pledged "to help to make sure this never happens again" and has scheduled a news conference for Friday.
somehow the magic is limiting mag capacity. somehow, 10 rounds is the magic number. Just for shyts & giggles, let's say that was in place.
Anyone really think he wouldn't have killed his mom, stolen her guns, loaded up all her 10 round mags & done the same thing?
Anyone REALLY think it would have made as much difference in the out come as a fart in a tornado?
I don't.
Anyone really think he wouldn't have killed his mom, stolen her guns, loaded up all her 10 round mags & done the same thing?
Anyone REALLY think it would have made as much difference in the out come as a fart in a tornado?
I don't.
Rocky1
New member
Originally Posted By: Stu Farishsomehow the magic is limiting mag capacity. somehow, 10 rounds is the magic number. Just for shyts & giggles, let's say that was in place.
Anyone really think he wouldn't have killed his mom, stolen her guns, loaded up all her 10 round mags & done the same thing?
Anyone REALLY think it would have made as much difference in the out come as a fart in a tornado?
I don't.
He'd have just had to change mags more often.
Anyone really think he wouldn't have killed his mom, stolen her guns, loaded up all her 10 round mags & done the same thing?
Anyone REALLY think it would have made as much difference in the out come as a fart in a tornado?
I don't.
He'd have just had to change mags more often.