UPDATED! It's not dead yet - Arrogant imposter will be found out

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go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?



It would offer itself up for authenticity and provide a lot of information that could be verified.


The only information that relates to his natural born status is his place of birth. Looking for other information is nothing more than a fishing expedition and has no legal basis.



Place of birth would be nice.
Name of Dr. that delivered him would be nice.
Name of Hospital that he was born at would be nice.
Birth Certificate NR. would be nice.
College records would be nice.
Medical records would be nice.
Indonesian Passport records would be nice.
Pakistan visa's would be nice.
One iota of proof of what he says would be nice.

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Just fill in the blanks.
 
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OMG...I cannot believe this thread!

Here is the issue: In five minutes I could produce from King County, WA, courthouse a photocopy of a typed (as in typewriter) 1964 Birth Certificate of Bill and Jenine McCauley's bouncing baby predator hunter. No problemo.

Now, WHY ON EARTH doesn't Obasm just produce his and stop all this?!

Rimmy, et al: There is NO LEGITIMATE REASON to withhold something so minor, so WHY does he withhold it??!!

Riddle me that, Batman.

BTW, Stu is totally correct: Even if Obasm isn't legally qualified, it won't matter. No court would have the guts to de-horse him now.

Can you imagine the 'urban' riots if that were to occur? You think ANY US court whould have the gonads to do that?

Sorry, I don't.
 
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OMG...I cannot believe this thread!

Here is the issue: In five minutes I could produce from King County, WA, courthouse a photocopy of a typed (as in typewriter) 1964 Birth Certificate of Bill and Jenine McCauley's bouncing baby predator hunter. No problemo.

Now, WHY ON EARTH doesn't Obasm just produce his and stop all this?!

Rimmy, et al: There is NO LEGITIMATE REASON to withhold something so minor, so WHY does he withhold it??!!

Riddle me that, Batman.

BTW, Stu is totally correct: Even if Obasm isn't legally qualified, it won't matter. No court would have the guts to de-horse him now.

Can you imagine the 'urban' riots if that were to occur? You think ANY US court whould have the gonads to do that?

Sorry, I don't.



I have to agree with you that the courts don't have the balls to make a correct ruling. Although I think we could survive the riots and be better off for it.
 
Eligibility case finds 'standing'? New suit claims unique state law enables citizens to demand proof

Posted: December 30, 2008
9:54 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
2008 WorldNetDaily

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon

A new case challenging Barack Obama's natural-born citizenship and, therefore, constitutional eligibility to serve as president has the potential to clear a hurdle that caused several other similar cases' dismissal: the issue of "standing."

In the case brought by Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg, for example, a federal judge ruled against the lawsuit in deciding Berg lacked the "standing" to sue, arguing that the election of Obama wouldn't cause the plaintiff specific, personal injury.

In Washington state's Broe v. Reed case, however, plaintiff's attorney Stephen Pidgeon says a unique state statute grants everyday citizens the required standing.

"These lawsuits have pointed their fingers at the various secretaries of state and said, 'You handle the elections, it's your job [to verify Obama's eligibility],'" Stephen Pidgeon told WND, "and the secretaries of state have said, 'No, it's not our job. You the voter have to prove he was ineligible.' But when the voters try to do it, the courts tell them they have no standing. So it presents a catch-22.

"Here, we have standing by means of statute," Pidgeon continued. "This particular statute provides for any registered voter to challenge the election of a candidate if the candidate at the time of the election was ineligible to hold office."

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 200,000 others and sign up now!

Further, Pidgeon explained, "In Washington we also have a constitutional clause in Article 1 that says the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of land, so it's very much a state issue that the secretary of state has a duty to enforce the U.S. Constitution.

"He doesn't think he does; we think he does. That's really the issue before the court," Pidgeon said.

Washington's secretary of state, Mr. Sam Reed, has opposed the lawsuit, brought by a group of 12 registered Washington voters with Pidgeon's representation, on several grounds, including the argument that the issue is moot now that Obama has been voted upon by the people.

Pidgeon argues, however, that even if Obama remains in office two years from now, the issue will not be moot.

"The Constitution's criteria for president are never moot," Pidgeon explained. "Article 2, Section 1 says 'eligible to the Office of President'; it doesn't say 'eligible for candidacy to the Office of President."

Therefore, Pidgeon argues, the Constitution's natural-born citizen clause specifically and expressly addresses the man sitting in the Oval Office, not just the main elected and waiting to get in.

"If, at any time during his tenure, a birth certificate actually surfaces showing [Obama] born in Kenya," Pidgeon said, "he is disqualified from the presidency at any time. And the constitutional crisis that is rising out of this – the longer he's in that office, the greater the problem becomes, because everything he does will be illegal."

The Washington Supreme Court is set to hear Broe v. Reed on Jan. 8, but the entire case may be delayed intentionally, as the plaintiffs wait to see if the court will rule first on a requested subpoena of Obama's birth certificate from Hawaii.

Unlike other states where lawsuits challenging Obama's natural-born citizen status were required to move through lower courts, Washington law grants the case "original jurisdiction" at the state Supreme Court, which means the plaintiff can present new evidence, including – if the court will indeed subpoena it – Obama's birth records.

"We have opportunity to present facts before the Supreme Court, where you wouldn't have that normally," Pidgeon told WND. "With original jurisdiction, we have the opportunity to present factual argument, and so what we have said to the court is, 'At no time did Senator Obama produce a single piece of evidence upon which the secretary of state could rely to establish that he was a natural born citizen, or that he was even an American citizen, or that he was running under his legal name.' Those are the three facets of our lawsuit."

Pidgeon also told WND that the case's primary hurdle now is the natural predisposition judges have toward complying with the democratic will of the people. They rarely "upset the apple cart," Pidgeon said, by overturning the results of an election.

Still, Pidgeon believes pursuing Broe v. Reed is necessary.

"I expect the truth of Senator Obama's birth is going to come out," Pidgeon told WND. "It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but the truth of his birth is going to come out, and when that true fact comes out that he was born in Kenya, we will have an unprecedented constitutional crisis in this nation.

"The question is," Pidgeon figures, "will the Washington Supreme Court stand for the rule of law or are they going to stand for an overthrow of the constitutional republic by the will of the electorate?"

Last month, WND reported on the potential complications an ineligible president could create.

"Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void," argues a similar case brought by Alan Keyes and pending in California, "Americans will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal."

With such high stakes potentially at risk, WND earlier launched a letter campaign to contact Electoral College members and urge them to review the controversy.

That followed a campaign that sent more than 60,000 letters by overnight delivery to the U.S. Supreme Court when one case contesting Obama's eligibility for the Oval Office was pending.

A separate petition, already signed by more than 200,000 also is ongoing asking authorities in the election to seek proof Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question was why, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists as his campaign has stated, Obama hasn't simply ordered it made available to settle the rumors

The governor's office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii?
 
This isn't going to go away even if the media continues to ignore it. If the media got on his case like they would a Republican he would have to talk or walk.
 
Good old WA...there are some advantages to not having joined the union until 1889 and having been founded by rugged, entrepreneurial pioneers who disliked invasive government. That is also why WA has a very strong initiative process.

It will be interesting to watch this stuff unfold. I still think it will amount to naught, though.
 
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Good old WA...there are some advantages to not having joined the union until 1889 and having been founded by rugged, entrepreneurial pioneers who disliked invasive government. That is also why WA has a very strong initiative process.

It will be interesting to watch this stuff unfold. I still think it will amount to naught, though.



The media could make or break this thing. Being the media though it will probably be like you think, for naught. The media should be made to pay for this but with the democrats ability to censor the media I think we are screwed. Not looking forward to a crisis but that is about the only other solution as far as I can see.
 
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This isn't going to go away even if the media continues to ignore it. If the media got on his case like they would a Republican he would have to talk or walk.



The left wing media never will go after Obama for anything . They are the reason so many ill informed people voted for this joker .
 
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The media could make or break this thing. Being the media though it will probably be like you think, for naught. The media should be made to pay for this but with the democrats ability to censor the media I think we are screwed. Not looking forward to a crisis but that is about the only other solution as far as I can see.



You are right on the money , the media will say and do nothing !! Just like they did before the election !! And they will try to get the fairness doctrine going and shut down all the right wing talk shows ASAP .
 
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The media could make or break this thing. Being the media though it will probably be like you think, for naught. The media should be made to pay for this but with the democrats ability to censor the media I think we are screwed. Not looking forward to a crisis but that is about the only other solution as far as I can see.



You are right on the money , the media will say and do nothing !! Just like they did before the election !! And they will try to get the fairness doctrine going and shut down all the right wing talk shows ASAP .



Talk about a bunch of hypocrites, the Fairness Doctrine is nothing about being fair. Its sole purpose is to censor any opposing viewpoints of the Democrats. Just like their drive to do away with the 2nd Amendment they want to selectively hobble the 1st Amendment. The Democrats push to do away with 'Secret ballots' for workplace unionization is another A$$backwards push to a more socialist economy. They should be outlawed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8b_usFyLHQ&NR=1



Snopes and Fact check said its not true so that all that matters right ??? WRONG !!!!!!!!! Good video but will this go anywhere ??


The claims in the video run counter to the information from the State Department web site. http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html If Obama’s citizenship had been revoked there would be due process and a paper trail. Can you find any evidence that his citizenship has been revoked?
 
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