Question For Hogster Users

I would think that thing would twang like a tuning fork when you shot it? You may want to look into what Limbhanger mentioned and try to find a shorter mounting solution. I would hate to see you chasing zero if the mount isn’t holding up.
 
Just curious, how long is that rail ? Wish I would have taken a picture of mine when scope was on it but at least with the Thermion a lot of the scope is over the rail. That really looks strange but as small as that scope is I definitely see the problem mounting it on a bolt !

Nice thing with the AR platforms is the collapsible stock. You can collapse and move up on the scope !
 
Originally Posted By: limbhanger10...what was the original optic mounted on? that original 2-piece base?position for correct eye relief of scope?

What is on the rail in front of Thermal mount?

Did you look at getting a 1 piece BASE mount? There are some out there that have up to a 1/2 to 1" offset..that are often just enough to get shorter thermals in a good position.

Looks like the QD thermal base has a longer clamp where you can overhang back off rail base about 2 or 3 slot positions off center of base clamp...and still get it very secure..

The scope I took off was a 1x8 Vortex Strike Eagle that was mounted on the factory base (no problem with eye relief on it). The item in front is an offset base that I put on so I was sure to get the thermal in the right slot when mounting in the dark.
I looked for a rail that would replace the factory rail but had no luck.
When I got home from work today I put the rifle on a tripod and shot a target at around 25 yards (with cheap American Eagle FMJs) I only shot 6 shots but I was not disappointed with the grouping.
I will have to play with it more and will likely move it up the rail or just mount on the factory rail and scrunch way up to use it.
I can see how they work better on an AR with the stock collapsed and may end up going that route and will just eject the reduced loads manually.
 
Originally Posted By: Pa. MickJust curious, how long is that rail ? Wish I would have taken a picture of mine when scope was on it but at least with the Thermion a lot of the scope is over the rail. That really looks strange but as small as that scope is I definitely see the problem mounting it on a bolt !

Nice thing with the AR platforms is the collapsible stock. You can collapse and move up on the scope !

The add on rail is 12". I know it looks totally ridiculous but that's what puts it back to the eye.
 
I run an A2 stock on my ar and the focus dial that the eyepiece attaches to is right above where gun and stock meet. Have 2 nv scopes and their about the same. Eyepiece length is what is hanging over. FWIW.
 
Originally Posted By: mbaysinger89Somebody makes an extended hogster mount. Bobro i think.




...this is by far the best route you could look into.

...I had to go to a Bobro offset mount for my Trij MK3...and an offset for my Trail XP50.

..I too, don't have a giraffe neck or thin and lanky...throwing on single digit clothing just adds to the thickness factor LOL

Your other option is changing
to a chassis system(expensive) with the shortest LOP option

..cutting the stock down AFAP may also work

*..before I changed platforms, I used a Bradley Cheek Riser on my factory stocks.
 
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You know what, out in the dark it will look just fine, lol ! If it works for you & kills coyotes it will be an AWESOME setup !!!
 
I asked professional hunters and shooters. They replied that the canonical distance between the rifle butt plate and the eyepiece should be in a range that goes from 26 to 30 cm, based on the length of the hunter's arms and neck. From the photo you posted, the distance seems to be less than 26 cm. I don't think it's easy to shoot with that setting.
 
While everyone desires that perfect check weld where the rifle comes to the shoulder and your eye is looking straight through the ocular with a complete FOV instantly and every time, I believe that is not necessary with thermal scopes. Although it certainly would be desired for that to happen almost automatically, check weld is not as critical as with a day scope. Remember with thermal or even digital nv, you aren't looking through the scope as with a traditional day scope. The internal components (camera) is looking through the objective and converting that to an image that is viewed on the ocular end. Basically you are looking at a picture or video if you please that the camera captures and transmits to the view screen (ocular).

I could be wrong, but believe that as long as your crosshairs are on the intended target, it doesn't really make any difference whether you have a solid check weld or not. In fact, your check may not even have to be touching the stock because you're only looking at an image projected on the ocular screen. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Hello DoubleUp. I sent your reply to a friend who is a great specialist in lens riflescopes, rifles, calibrations, settings and long range shooting. He saw the photos of 454shooter, he also read my comment. He really appreciated your answer. In practice, he implicitly agreed with you and wrong with me. I write you his original answer in Italian and also translated into English with Google translator


Sicuramente, DoubleUp ha ragione comunque.....
Non essendoci lenti, con immagine video proiettata , cambia poco. I cannocchiali devono far sì che si mantenga la stessa distanza e devono essere ben centrati per evitare errori di parallasse. Con il display del visore termico non è necessario...Se 454shooter è comodo così... ha fatto bene !

Surely, DoubleUp is right anyway .....
Since there are no lenses and with a projected video image, it changes little. The scopes must ensure that the same distance is maintained and must be well centered to avoid parallax errors. With the thermal riflescope display it is not necessary ... If the 454shooter is so comfortable ... it did well!
 
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