Last night we ere sitting on the couch and my new English Setter pupy came in with something in her mouth. I told Storm to drop it and lo and behold it was a dead(but still warm) house wren!!!!. She had to have caught it she has been stalking them for weeks! She is only 14 weeks old and has her first bird. The E.S she is replacing didn't get her first bird untill she was 8 months old. I may try to start her retrieving dove with me this sept. Jon