When I make a howler, I usually try to make them for guys who are holding their rifle grip with the right hand and will be holding the howler in their left. I blow all of my calls while holding them in my left hand. Most REAL coyote men do it like that ya know. I realize that some fellows do things backwards like Michael, so when they order a howler they should tell me to make the horn bend the other way a little. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I like to have the bend of the horn in such a way that it bends upward when the plastic reed is on top. I use my upper teeth on the reed, so guys who like to use their lower lip on the reed would want the reed on the bottom. Jay Nistetter likes to blow open red calls with his lower lip on the reed, but then he is sort of backward like Michael. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Holy cow, I better stop now before I start a war with these guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif