I got a nibble! Thanks jimmy 917. I have a hunting partner that swears by his. But he's had issues, sent it back. All good now! I can't remember what was wrong, but I could find out. I have a leupold vxr patrol, nice scope. BUT those external adjustments where rolling on me! So than I zeroed the dails, than I noticed they where rolling on me while I was carrying the rifle. Loved that scope but I can't trust it now!