Moving the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

Originally Posted By: fw707You don't believe that prophecy crap any more than I do.
You have to admit it is fascinating how so many predictions in the Old Testament have became true and what the statistical probabilities were for predicting Jesus.

Prior Predictions Prove the Bible's Authority

I read the bible for myself so I do not need others telling me what is in it and how to interpret it. There is a lot more to the bible than the doomsday stuff. It also tells us the morals and ethics to live our life by. It makes life more colorful and provides a better avenue to accept loss. I find that believing in God gives me peace and I do not live in fear.

How significant moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem will be remains to be seen. I don't know.
 
It’s one thing to say living with a religious faith makes life more comforting, especially when dealing with loss. It’s another to say that it’s true. Two totally different views. Some can’t handle the fact that everyone and everything they’ve ever known will soon be gone forever. To them, perhaps religion’s a good place to hide.
 
Originally Posted By: FursniperOriginally Posted By: fw707You don't believe that prophecy crap any more than I do.
You have to admit it is fascinating how so many predictions in the Old Testament have became true and what the statistical probabilities were for predicting Jesus.

Prior Predictions Prove the Bible's Authority



Nope, I don't have to admit it.
There's no evidence to prove any of it, unless you want to define a bunch of semi-literate desert dwellers getting together over a few hundred years and writing a second book to prove a first book as evidence.
The only thing more absurd is the rating system for the "statistical probabilities" used by the author in your link.
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"A PORTRAIT OF MESSIAH

To give a statistical proof of the power of the Bible in the area of predictive prophecy, I will now list some messianic prophecies, along with their fulfillments. Then will be given a conservative estimate of the mathematical chance that each such prophecy could be fulfilled in the life of one individual by the random events of history."

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Originally Posted By: Fursniper
I read the bible for myself so I do not need others telling me what is in it and how to interpret it. There is a lot more to the bible than the doomsday stuff. It also tells us the morals and ethics to live our life by. It makes life more colorful and provides a better avenue to accept loss. I find that believing in God gives me peace and I do not live in fear.


No, it tells YOU morals and ethics to live by. Some of us have a much better source.
I'm glad it gives you the peace and the opportunity to live without fear. Some of us can make it just fine without an imaginary support system.

Originally Posted By: Fursniper
How significant moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem will be remains to be seen. I don't know.

Yep, you are right about that. We'll just have to wait and see and hope for the best.
But you can bet whatever happens will be the result of real-world situations, diplomacy, and choices.

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Originally Posted By: sandy hicksGreat more money saved. Seems like a smart strategy. We didnt cut you off, you cut yourself off by not recognizing our allies.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/21/united-nations-un-vote-donald-trump-jerusalem-israel


"The United Nations general assembly has delivered a stinging rebuke to Donald Trump, voting by a huge majority to reject his unilateral recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

"The vote came despite a redoubling of threats by Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, who said that Washington would remember which countries “disrespected” America by voting against it.

Despite the warning, 128 members voted in favour of the resolution in support of the long-standing international consensus that the status of Jerusalem – which is claimed by both Israel and the Palestinians as a capital – can only be settled as an agreed final issue in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

Only nine states – including the United States and Israel voting against the resolution."

Maybe the 128 members smelled Mike Pence and the Indianapolis Grace Evangelical Church's apocalyptic doctrine stinking in the background.

http://www.indygrace.org/?page_id=32

11.) THE BLESSED HOPE / SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
We believe in the personal, premillennial and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and that this “Blessed Hope” has a vital bearing on the personal life and service of the believer. Furthermore, we believe that the Lord Jesus will receive to Himself the dead in Christ and the believers who are alive at His coming, otherwise known as the Rapture of the Church. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ will, in glorified resurrection body, return to establish His Millennial kingdom, which will climax the fulfillment of Israel’s seventieth week called the Tribulation.


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Oh, so sorry to upset the UN. But, younwouldnt want to hang out in a condemned country, so no more free ride. Get on down the road. Send them back a letter condemning all countries for not paying their share and being a bunch of free loaders. Look at the annual bill, split it up between all the countries who are members and then only pay our part. More money saved.

Im not worried about being condemned by an organization that usually elects a black muslim as its president. You can bet that he fills his pockets with our money.
 
Originally Posted By: fw707Maybe the 128 members smelled Mike Pence and the Indianapolis Grace Evangelical Church's apocalyptic doctrine stinking in the background.

http://www.indygrace.org/?page_id=32

11.) THE BLESSED HOPE / SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
We believe in the personal, premillennial and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and that this “Blessed Hope” has a vital bearing on the personal life and service of the believer. Furthermore, we believe that the Lord Jesus will receive to Himself the dead in Christ and the believers who are alive at His coming, otherwise known as the Rapture of the Church. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ will, in glorified resurrection body, return to establish His Millennial kingdom, which will climax the fulfillment of Israel’s seventieth week called the Tribulation.

No, the reason is because the United Nations has become an anti Semitic, anti Israel, and anti American cesspool.

Just a thought: There is supposed to be a third temple built in Jerusalem before Tribulation occurs. So far thee has only been two. The second temple was obliterated around 70AD by King Harrod. Archeologists suspect that the Temple Mount is NOT where the prior 2 temples were built. So if the US Embassy is moved to Jerusalem and the location is where the prior 2 temples were built, that might have biblical significance for the third temple.

You are not gonna get raptured FW. Nothing to see here.
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Trump's stand against the United Nations and especially it's corrupt General Assembly is one of the reasons Trump is in the White House. Barack Hussein Obama loved the U.N. and would have ceded the sovereignty of the U.S.A. to it if he thought he could.
 
Originally Posted By: Fursniper
You are not gonna get raptured FW. Nothing to see here.
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Yeah, I know,
and you aren't either.
You've already missed it...
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https://www.gotquestions.org/preterist.html

"Preterism denies the future prophetic quality of the book of Revelation. The preterist movement essentially teaches that all the end-times prophecies of the New Testament were fulfilled in AD 70 when the Romans attacked and destroyed Jerusalem. Preterism teaches that every event normally associated with the end times—Christ’s second coming, the tribulation, the resurrection of the dead, the final judgment—has already happened. (In the case of the final judgment, it still in the process of being fulfilled.) Jesus’ return to earth was a “spiritual” return, not a physical one."

The preterist doctrine is the only true and correct biblical doctrine.


Originally Posted By: Fursniper
No, the reason is because the United Nations has become an anti Semitic, anti Israel, and anti American cesspool.


Hey, speaking of anti-semitic, you wouldn't happen to be Catholic, would you Fursniper??
 
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Originally Posted By: fw707https://www.gotquestions.org/preterist.html

"Preterism denies the future prophetic quality of the book of Revelation. The preterist movement essentially teaches that all the end-times prophecies of the New Testament were fulfilled in AD 70 when the Romans attacked and destroyed Jerusalem. Preterism teaches that every event normally associated with the end times—Christ’s second coming, the tribulation, the resurrection of the dead, the final judgment—has already happened. (In the case of the final judgment, it still in the process of being fulfilled.) Jesus’ return to earth was a “spiritual” return, not a physical one."

The preterist doctrine is the only true and correct biblical doctrine.

Preterism is NOT the only true and correct biblical doctrine. It is just one of three approaches to prophetic interpretation of the bible. The others are the Futurist belief and the Historical belief. Whichever belief one takes, all Christians should be preparing themselves to meet Jesus someday.

Here is a link for a comparison of all three (Preterist, Futurist, Historical) and how they interpret Christian eschatology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology

For your reading enjoyment, here is a link as to why Preterism is not an accurate interpretation of bible prophecy.

http://www.letusreason.org/proph19.htm

Originally Posted By: fw707Hey, speaking of anti-semitic, you wouldn't happen to be Catholic, would you Fursniper??
Not a Catholic.
 
Originally Posted By: Fursniper
Preterism is NOT the only true and correct biblical doctrine. It is just one of three approaches to prophetic interpretation of the bible. The others are the Futurist belief and the Historical belief. Whichever belief one takes, all Christians should be preparing themselves to meet Jesus Christ and be waiting for His return (John 14:3).

Here is a link for a comparison of all three (Preterist, Futurist, Historical) and how they interpret Christian eschatology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology

For your reading enjoyment, here is a link as to why Preterism is not an accurate interpretation of bible prophecy.

http://www.letusreason.org/proph19.htm



You are absolutely wrong.
Preterism is the ONLY correct interpretation of biblical prophecy, so therefore ALL of the others, such as "Futurist" or "Historical", or anything else you can dream up are false doctrines from false prophets. Scripture proves it with absolutely no doubt...

These (101) scriptures prove the doctrine of preterism to be totally and completely correct, and leave absolutely no room for any further discussion. The scriptures do not lie:

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Hyper/2002_green_time-indicators.html

101 Preterist Time-Indicators

By David Green
2002

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Originally Posted By: Fursniper
Originally Posted By: fw707Hey, speaking of anti-semitic, you wouldn't happen to be Catholic, would you Fursniper??
Not a Catholic.

OK, not Catholic.
Hmmmmm.......

So, once again speaking about anti semitism....

Do you belong to any of the Protestant denominations that have "evolved" from the "Reformation" Martin Luther started around about 1517 or so?

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Originally Posted By: fw707You are absolutely wrong.
Preterism is the ONLY correct interpretation of biblical prophecy, so therefore ALL of the others, such as "Futurist" or "Historical", or anything else you can dream up are false doctrines from false prophets. Scripture proves it with absolutely no doubt...

These (101) scriptures prove the doctrine of preterism to be totally and completely correct, and leave absolutely no room for any further discussion. The scriptures do not lie:

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Hyper/2002_green_time-indicators.html

101 Preterist Time-Indicators

By David Green
2002

There is a lot of info available as to why Preterism is false. Here is a link for 12 more reasons preterism is false.

http://www.understandingbibleprophecy.org/2017/02/12-reasons-preterism-is-false-teaching/

Here is a link explaining how preterist screwed up Revelation 16, which is the basis for their beliefs.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/preterism/

The Jews are God's chosen people, God has their back, and Israel is supposed to be returned to them someday without being divided. If Preterists were correct, everything in the world today would be hunky dory. It's not.
 
Originally Posted By: fw707OK, not Catholic.
Hmmmmm.......

So, once again speaking about anti semitism....

Do you belong to any of the Protestant denominations that have "evolved" from the "Reformation" Martin Luther started around about 1517 or so?
Nope
 
Originally Posted By: FursniperOriginally Posted By: fw707You are absolutely wrong.
Preterism is the ONLY correct interpretation of biblical prophecy, so therefore ALL of the others, such as "Futurist" or "Historical", or anything else you can dream up are false doctrines from false prophets. Scripture proves it with absolutely no doubt...

These (101) scriptures prove the doctrine of preterism to be totally and completely correct, and leave absolutely no room for any further discussion. The scriptures do not lie:

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Hyper/2002_green_time-indicators.html

101 Preterist Time-Indicators

By David Green
2002

There is a lot of info available as to why Preterism is false. Here is a link for 12 more reasons preterism is false.

http://www.understandingbibleprophecy.org/2017/02/12-reasons-preterism-is-false-teaching/

Here is a link explaining why using the scriptures in Revelation 16.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/preterism/

It’s uhhhhh, “interesting” that there’s scripture that proves two opposite doctrines to be both true and false.....
In the inspired and inerrant book of a god.

It just proves it’s as false as all the other books.

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Originally Posted By: FursniperOriginally Posted By: fw707OK, not Catholic.
Hmmmmm.......

So, once again speaking about anti semitism....

Do you belong to any of the Protestant denominations that have "evolved" from the "Reformation" Martin Luther started around about 1517 or so?
Nope

Hmmmmmmm.
When you get away from Catholics and Protestants, the rest of the bible believers are usually seen as cults-
Such as Christian Science, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Seventh-Day Adventists.

I’m not sure if the cults are as anti-Semitic as the “mainstream” Christianity like Catholics and Protestants-heck, even the Baptists!

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