LS 64 weapon mounted

Hi, All--

I have been thinking in greater detail about what it will
take to use the LS64 as a weapon-mounted thermal viewer....

One consideration would be to come up with the optics lens
adapter that would provide for using the LS64 as a clip-on
thermal viewer in front of an Aimpoint or other optic.

How do self-contained thermal rifle scopes that can be
used either as a hand-held unit or as a clip-on provide
for viewing their display screen through the regular
rifle scope?

Does anyone on this thread have any thoughts, ideas or
feedback as to what lens configuration this would require?

Mike B.
 
I was browsing for info on clip-on thermal rifle scopes
and came across an interesting photo at www.X2-.org

Here is a DropBox link to the photo:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60102282/Thermal%20scope.jpg

I note a couple of things... There is a tubular coupling
connecting the T70 with the ACOG. Is this to keep the
screen light from being seen by anyone but the shooter?
Or does it contain some optics? The reason I ask this
is that my Aimpoints cannot focus on the display screen
in my LS64.

Note also the 4" LCD display monitor attached to the
rear of the ACOG ocular. What is going on here?
--And why? If the shooter can look into the ACOG and
see the T70 display, why attach an LCD monitor?

Using a simple +8 diopter adapter lens I can use
my Aimpoint to see the display in my LS64.

How is it that an ACOG can focus at infinite distance
and also focus on the T70 screen. I do not have
an ACOG to invistigate this. How is the optics in
the ACOG different from my Aimpoint?

I would like to have some ACOG owner experiment to
see how close their ACOG will focus by taking a
ruler and slowly bringing it close to the ACOG
ocular. At what distance does the ruler come into
sharp focus?

Someone is going to have to explain to me why my
Aimpoints need an adapter lens to focus on the
LS64 screen but an ACOG does not.

Mike B.
 
I am trying similiar viewing method using cheap 1-4x scope. Get fair focus with 1x but can not focus above 2. Flir Display and Optics is so small it can not compare to dvr Display. Normal clipon is 1x, however usually use 3x optic in front lens and use 1/3x in rear lens so viewing with higher x scope does not pixilate view when on higher magnification. Rs series has real lens on rear of unit. I need to fifure how to disassemble unit and add real lens system!! Any one tried to do that yet?
 
Hello, Melong--

You said:

Forgot to mention look at black Optics adaptation for using pvs 14 as clipon.
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What is "black optics"...?? Please explain!!

I still have not found a way to use a 2X or 3X power
scope or red-dot sight behind an LS64. A thermal
imager (or night-vision imager) needs to have a
"collimated" optical output ocular for this to work.

If there is some way to insert a special lens between
the LS64's non-collimated optical output and a 2X or 3X
scope or red-dot to obtain a decent image I have not
found it yet.

Mike B.
 
No rain, I just have a 640 core with 35mm lens 1-6x zoom, 12hr standby 6hr recording capability.
LCD screen with a 3x lens. For under $5400.00. Saved about $1k.
But the r series would be much better IMHO, flir warranty and possibly better DDE software algos.
 
Scope itself would help save on the trying to properly align the crosshairs, at least. The camera mount you developed should work on this one too, I would think, so you can have the zoom on the camera and recording capabilities there with a scope that might work better with the crosshairs superimposed internally, and this scope should be shock rated for recoil on the gun by FLIR, since that question came up earlier.

The other thing I was looking at on these Hard_ware... The LS 32 and the LS 64 are running a 30Hz refresh rate, if you step up to the RS32 model on this one, ($500 - $4000 more than the base unit, dependent upon how much zoom you want, which that you already have on your camera and don't need the $4000 option there), it's running a 60Hz refresh rate. That one should be really sweet on moving targets, I would think???? But what affect does it have on your video if any?
 
No effect on the video output. The refresh rate on the detector is what is happening at 60hz. This will have little effect on shooting but will consume more power as the processor has 2x the work to do. But this will not cut the battery life in half, but reduce it a little. This is based on past experience with electronics and video processors you don't get something for nothing with physics.
 
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