Just received a Vortex Viper HS 4-16X44 LR from JoeBob's and all I can say is these are alot of scope for the money! The clarity, mechanics, small details, and overall looks way exceded my expectations. The deadhold BDC reticle may be a little thin for some. Once focused it seems about right for what i will be using the scope for. I called Joseph at 5:00 PM Tuesday to order the scope and he said it would go out yet that day! Fedex delivered it today, Thursday, at noon. You can't beat that. JoeBob's definetly sets the bar for how a business should be run, just a super place to deal with!