I'm in BIG Trouble!!!

Originally Posted By: 6mm06Originally Posted By: OldTurtleI'm still trying to figure out why you felt you had to "confess" to the purchase....I have my income, my wife has hers, ..... individually, to do with as we choose.

If I choose to buy a new firearm, car, or anything else, she may roll her eyes, or shake her head, but there is never hassle about it...

This.

Of course I know guys joke a lot about wives and the subject of buying toys etc., but the problem is that joking too much just feeds the dragon. Too many women now believe they can control their husbands. Sad fact is that many can.

Man up. Be responsible with finances, provide for the family, and when it's your turn for an occasional thing, do it and make no apologizies for it.

Before I got married I informed my wife-to-be that I love guns, hunting and shooting and that I would never give them up, so don't ask. When she married me, she married my toys too, past, present and future.






This X 100. If the Mrs. Won't speak to you over buying a piece of metal and plastic (especially for an item that helps in an activity that brings you joy and involves spending quality time with your children), then you have bigger problems then needing a more solid rest. Unless such purchase would mean that the power bill was going to be late or Junior would have to wait another month on those badly needed braces of course. Good luck
 
Originally Posted By: g BoOriginally Posted By: DAAOriginally Posted By: g Bo " Honey I guess this means me getting lucky tonight it out of the question?"

I've never dared to do that, but let us all know how that goes for you???


I've dared to do it many times. I don't put it quite that way though. I say something more along the lines of "You just wait until tonight, I'll make it up to you Honey, don't you worry...". Means the same thing. Usually does kinda work, a little bit...
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Dave, as always I have a lot to learn


I don't know about that! It's mainly just a way to make her smile. She can't stay mad if I can make her smile and that one almost always makes her laugh out loud - when she is just plain ticked off and I come back with my Rico Suave routine
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"I wonder when men started getting ruled by women"?

It's nice when both husband and wife have their own money. It makes things a lot easier. My wife buys what she wants and I do the same, but we both watch our budget. We also help each other.

This is a bit off track from the original post, of a more serious nature and not joking, but maybe worthy of some discussion, for whatever it's worth. Women's Liberation won't like this.

The original intent, instituted by God, was that the man be the head, not the woman. The woman was to be a helpmate, not a servant nor lesser in God's eyes, but with a different role than the man. Each had a role and neither was to be of more or less value. Adam was the head of the garden, not Eve. Adam had authority from Heaven. He came first in creation, not Eve.

Man's biblical authority as head of the family was never meant to be abusive, dictatorial, selfish, inconsiderate or neglectful of his wife. He was supposed to consider her in all things, love her, provide for her, protect her and cherish her before others.

Woman's biblical role was to be a helpmate to her husband, to support, encourage, and honor him and to submit herself to him out of love, respect and devotion.

So much for the way it was supposed to be. We sure are a long distance from that perfect way. What happens when God's perfect plan becomes out of balance?

Consider this example of a family unit not working properly. Suppose a man and his wife live in a neighborhood on a few acres of property and have chickens. The wife is a country girl and loves animals. She wants the chickens to run freely during the day on her and her husband's property. The husband supported her initially with that in trying to please his wife, even though he really didn't like the idea of it. He sacrificed out of love for her. However, after a while the population of chickens grew out of hand and they began to mess up the place. They were all over the yard, on the porch, scratching up the vehicles, but not only that, they began to venture to the neighbor's yard where they pooped, scratched up grass, ate vegetables out of the neighbor's garden and were just a nuisance to the neighbor. The neighbor began to complain, rightfully so.

The husband tried reasoning with the wife that the chickens would have to be kept up in a lot and not left to run freely. The wife became irate and said no. Despite the husband pleading with his wife to do the right thing, she insisted the chickens continue to roam freely and she even became angry at the neighbors for complaining.

My question is, who has the responsibility of removing the chickens from the neighbor's yard? If the woman is the equal of the man in the household (which our culture embraces today, even some churches), and both husband and wife disagree, then who will decide the outcome? Would it have to go to court for a judge to decide such a thing? NO! The man has the authority and responsibility for it.

In the chicken case, the husband finally said, "Enough is enough, I am the head of this family. It is my job to protect the family's good name and good standing in the community. The chickens ARE going up in the lot." The wife became outraged and threatened to divorce him. The husband put the chickens up in the lot and told the wife there they will stay, and if she turns them out he will shoot them. She didn't believe him so he shot a few. Now the chickens are in the lot to stay.

Points to consider: When the neighbors, or law enforcement if they are called, place blame for the chickens running freely, who will receive the blame? Answer: The man. Why? Because he is the head of the family and charged by God Almighty (and the court) to be responsible for his family. In this case, the husband tried to support his wife by caring for her wishes and happiness - initially, but it got out of hand and a change had to be made.

Man up and take responsibility. Man and woman are equal in the eyes of God, but He gave them different roles. If the wife wishes to divorce him over chickens, then she isn't worth having. Let her go, but put the chickens in the lot - and have fried chicken every chance you get. LOL.

 
Spot on. Aside from my wife and I sharing an account, I try to practice everything in the above post and am blessed to have a woman that understands our roles.
 
It's just too funny how things have turned out over the last 3 pages. It began simply as a ball busting type of comment.

I have an amazing wife who is old school and knows that I am the leader of the household. No, she doesn't tell me what to do but would wish that I would respect our finances a little more and pay some things off instead of purchasing more.

She said no to me buying the Bog-Pod because to do so I wanted to open up a Cabela's credit card and she didn't want me having another card because she knows the damage that I can do. She had just made a payment on my already maxed out credit card and this is what I used to buy the tripod which didn't make her happy because we aren't making any headway on paying it off.

Other than that she never tells me no as well as I never tell her no. I am the sole bread winner in our family and she respects our positions as husband and wife and what we're meant to be in God's eyes.

I just find it hilarious how it turned from what I originally posted to a discussion of how I'm not man enough to CONTROL my woman and put her in her place. In actuality it's I who needs put in my place for some of my spending habits. I have the ability to save for things that I want and she has no problem with such things, but when I just up and buy something like that at a time when things are slim, it does make her angry because she's trying to plan for our future.
 
TheBig1,

I think the topic took on a discussion of its own from one member to another, with each responding to some thought or concept that came up along the way. I know my last post was in response to some other members and no reference to yours. It was just a discussion of a particular nature that arose little by little from your original post. However, your original post did lead others to believe that your wife is hard to deal with if you purchase something, at least that was the impression I got.

Sounds like in your latest post that you have a very good and level headed wife. You are blessed.

 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
"I wonder when men started getting ruled by women"?


That's an easy one, it's call the power of the vag. If you bang the fur out like we do, you don't have to worry about it.
 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06The original intent, instituted by God, was that the man be the head, not the woman. The woman was to be a helpmate, not a servant nor lesser in God's eyes, but with a different role than the man. Each had a role and neither was to be of more or less value. Adam was the head of the garden, not Eve. Adam had authority from Heaven. He came first in creation, not Eve.

Man's biblical authority as head of the family was never meant to be abusive, dictatorial, selfish, inconsiderate or neglectful of his wife. He was supposed to consider her in all things, love her, provide for her, protect her and cherish her before others.

Woman's biblical role was to be a helpmate to her husband, to support, encourage, and honor him and to submit herself to him out of love, respect and devotion. You just described our household better than I ever could.

Originally Posted By: skinneyOriginally Posted By: orkan
"I wonder when men started getting ruled by women"?

That's an easy one, it's call the power of the vag. If you bang the fur out like we do, you don't have to worry about it. Amen to that!

These things go so predictably. Guy complains about wife, as if it's cool and trendy to do. Then someone says something along the lines of "find a new wife." Then he comes back and says, "just kidding, we aren't like that at all."

So then why do men constantly complain about "the boss" or "the woman in charge" or the "ball and chain?" Every single day, without fail, I give a price quote to someone that then says "well let me call you back, I need to figure out how to hide this from the wife... you know how it is." No. No, I really DON'T know how it is. When I was a CHILD, in my teens, and maybe even early 20's, I let women run rampant in my life. When I became a man, that happened no longer. As a MAN, you don't go talking down about your wife to others. It's a cardinal rule. It is just as 6mm06 said above. You treat her with respect, but your family's future is YOUR responsibility. She is to respect and support your decisions. "Modern men" just love to toss their significant other under the bus, and they love the lack of responsibility that comes with handing over control of the checkbook. Then they complain about it when buying something, as if it's MY responsibility that he has to "check with mommy" before spending money.

Anyone that says that crap to me on the phone instantly loses my respect. It's moronic. Here's a tip: Life isn't an episode of "everybody loves raymond." The dopey idiotic man-boy runs around getting scowled at by some ball-busting female. I bet you could literally only watch one episode of that show and have the plot locked in for every other episode. Rinse and repeat for nearly every other "sit-com" on TV. Sorry to say, but that isn't life... and if men would act like men, and demand women respect themselves and others around them... we wouldn't see them behaving like this:

Instead, man-children will keep letting their females act psychotic.
 

Hollywood likes to portray men as ignorant, bordering on stupid, beer-bellied, bumbling, submissive idiots in comedy shows. The sad fact is that many are.

Too many homes are run by women, and far too many without a man's presence. Too many young boys are raised by their mothers and end up as either sissies or criminals. God's plan for the family was a good one, but men messed it up. Look what has become of men themselves. Too many have yielded their position in the family to females.

As a result of men having little respect for women as well as not assuming his role, look what has become of females in our society. When was the last time you saw a true lady, one that dresses and acts the part? I know there are some out there, but they are far and inbetween, and most are older that represent a different time.

A lot of American men (good men) are now turning to foreign women as potential wives, where some cultures still have old fashion values that more closely resemble how a home should operate.

 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Hollywood likes to portray men as ignorant, bordering on stupid, beer-bellied, bumbling, submissive idiots in comedy shows. The sad fact is that many are.

Too many homes are run by women, and far too many without a man's presence. Too many young boys are raised by their mothers and end up as either sissies or criminals. God's plan for the family was a good one, but men messed it up. Look what has become of men themselves. Too many have yielded their position in the family to females.

As a result of men having little respect for women as well as not assuming his role, look what has become of females in our society. When was the last time you saw a true lady, one that dresses and acts the part? I know there are some out there, but they are far and inbetween, and most are older that represent a different time.



You are well spoken. There are a lot of good posts here and I couldn't agree more. We are pretty responsible in our household with money, I earn the lion's share while my wife probably works as hard or harder considering all the household stuff and running the kids around. I don't catch any flack when I buy gun stuff, but I also know when I can and can't afford/justify it. We don't have nice furniture, electronics, or even cable tv. Our cars were paid off long ago. Right now we are two years into our farmstead makeover project, with quite a ways to go. I tell ya what that makes guns look cheap by comparison. Mostly, building ARs, reloading and shooting is my sanity release to keep me from going nuts with all the work there is to do.

I got "lucky" with my wife I guess but I also kept my distance from a lot of would-be suiters when I was single because I knew we wouldn't be compatible. Wow there are some nasty women out there, and just as many nasty men.

As far as ladies? Not many young ones out there. Not many gentlemen either.
 
As far as men out there? I see guys and I cannot believe how far removed we are as a society from the days where guys did men's work. So many milk-toast looking pansy beep sorry males out there that would rather sit on the side of the road waiting for help than to change there own flat tire, or wouldn't even be capable of it. No wonder women don't respect these men, who would?

All I can think when I see these people is that there will be a lot of starving people if/when the lights go out and things start going south.

To the op, sorry your thread got out of hand, but it's been a good read!
 
Originally Posted By: 204 ARAs far as men out there? I see guys and I cannot believe how far removed we are as a society from the days where guys did men's work. So many milk-toast looking pansy beep sorry males out there that would rather sit on the side of the road waiting for help than to change there own flat tire, or wouldn't even be capable of it. No wonder women don't respect these men, who would?

All I can think when I see these people is that there will be a lot of starving people if/when the lights go out and things start going south.

To the op, sorry your thread got out of hand, but it's been a good read!

You are all right, this world and our society have gone down the crapper for the most part and it's a terrible shame. As was stated before my wife and I are old fashioned and she is an amazing woman who stands next to me at all times but also knows that I lead our family. Her opinion is always welcome just not always followed.

Yes, I got in trouble for being irresponsible and I just thought that everyone would get a good laugh. Of course I didn't post in my OP at how irresponsible I'd been, what man would? I should've been more respectful of my family and simply waited a week or two but the sale was just too good, and short, to pass up.

I completely agree with the so called "Men" walking around. Unfortunately when the lights go out there's going to be two sorts of people, Eaters and Doers. I keep telling, and teaching, my children that being an Eater is not going to help you survive. They will be the first to go, whether by their own doing or by the hand of Doers who have no time and precious resources to support them.
 
OP, Congratulations on a faithful wife and a nice tripod.

Side point: If man won't be governed by God, he'll be ruled by tyrants...

If you want to know when men stopped being men look to the sexual revolution. Destructive lies took advantage of the lust in the hearts of both men and women, and by the deception dealt a hammer blow to the family. Although it took a generation or two produce the fruit we now lament. Know why those young men don't do men's work... deceived fathers and mothers. Know why those women are domineering... deceived fathers and mothers. We've exchanged the glory of an incorruptible God, for a glory of our own creation. Think about that the next time you're looking upon a woman's nakedness with lust, it starts there.
 
Originally Posted By: jakellyThink about that the next time you're looking upon a woman's nakedness with lust, it starts there. Interesting point. Something that I've pondered ever since my daughter was born. I have a few friends that like to send naked women pictures to group texts and so on. Before my daughter was born, I thought nothing of it. Afterward, I noticed something interesting: It is never the same woman. There must be literally MILLIONS if not tens of millions of women in pornography. Where are their fathers?

Something tells me they aren't very well adjusted people. Totally broken, would describe most of them no doubt. Mother, father, and daughter alike.
 
Ill let you all in on a little secret I learned in an intro Psychology course in college. It is referred to as the "door in the face technique"

So in your example you wanted to spend 150 on a nice tripod. After ordering said tripod when at the dinner table and the moment of "truth" comes up you simply tell the wife that you found an awesome thermal scope for night time coyote hunting for $3,500 that you couldn't pass up. Instantly an atomic bomb goes off at the dinner table and there will be lots of yelling and screaming about not being able to afford that. After a dramatically long time for that to soak in you simply state I'm just kidding I only spent $150 on a tripod and she is ecstatic that you aren't going to have to sell your firstborn child to fund your latest purchase.

I can't tell you for certain that this technique will work but I did try a similar version in Church one time. We needed a new keyboard for our band as the old one was really starting to crap out. I play in the band as well as my wife the keyboard player. The leader of our music department told me that the new keyboard would cost $1,500. I told him I would handle the fundraising for this by making an announcement during service with no further explanation to him. He was out of town the next week and when announcement time came I explained our situation of needing a new keyboard to the congregation. I stretched the story out nice and dramatic and left everyone dying to know how much money we needed to raise for the new purchase. As they waited with baited breath I announced that we needed $15,000 for the new keyboard and let a deathly silence fall over the crowd. I heard one exclamation of WHAT?!?! along with lots of other murmuring. I let that simmer for 30 seconds or so which felt like forever and then said good news is that I was joking we only need $1,500.

We got a new keyboard the very next week. Lots of donations came in and the finance department footed the difference.

Use this technique at your own risk and don't let it get turned around on you!!!
 
Originally Posted By: whitetail436Ill let you all in on a little secret I learned in an intro Psychology course in college. It is referred to as the "door in the face technique"

So in your example you wanted to spend 150 on a nice tripod. After ordering said tripod when at the dinner table and the moment of "truth" comes up you simply tell the wife that you found an awesome thermal scope for night time coyote hunting for $3,500 that you couldn't pass up. Instantly an atomic bomb goes off at the dinner table and there will be lots of yelling and screaming about not being able to afford that. After a dramatically long time for that to soak in you simply state I'm just kidding I only spent $150 on a tripod and she is ecstatic that you aren't going to have to sell your firstborn child to fund your latest purchase.

I can't tell you for certain that this technique will work but I did try a similar version in Church one time. We needed a new keyboard for our band as the old one was really starting to crap out. I play in the band as well as my wife the keyboard player. The leader of our music department told me that the new keyboard would cost $1,500. I told him I would handle the fundraising for this by making an announcement during service with no further explanation to him. He was out of town the next week and when announcement time came I explained our situation of needing a new keyboard to the congregation. I stretched the story out nice and dramatic and left everyone dying to know how much money we needed to raise for the new purchase. As they waited with baited breath I announced that we needed $15,000 for the new keyboard and let a deathly silence fall over the crowd. I heard one exclamation of WHAT?!?! along with lots of other murmuring. I let that simmer for 30 seconds or so which felt like forever and then said good news is that I was joking we only need $1,500.

We got a new keyboard the very next week. Lots of donations came in and the finance department footed the difference.

Use this technique at your own risk and don't let it get turned around on you!!!
Games like this are exactly what destroys an otherwise healthy relationship. If two people cannot be reasonable, genuine, honest, and forthright with one another... they should not be together.
 
I have five daughters, no sons, but my opinion preceded my children and my wife. Fornication is not a victimless crime, it just takes time to see where the ripples meet the shore. I met with a sexual abuse therapist in Billings, MT, as part of a nonprofit organization I was helping, the counselor stated that her industry widely accepts that 1:4 women are sexually abused, but she thinks it's much higher, 1:3 or maybe even 1:2. Considering the pornography industry thrives on women who have been abused you can imagine that the number is staggering. The number is probably limited most the physical beauty of the women themselves, not the number of women who could be tempted to that fate.
 
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