Originally Posted By: varminter .223This thing puts several 58s in one hole then the group shifts or it throws one. I dry fire my rifle from the bench and about as often as the group shifts or it throws one the reticle in my Zeiss basically shifts upon dry firing exactly the same direction and amount as my group are shifting. I have a stack of v16's and now a Zeiss that won't hold zero. The scopes will return to zero on the next shot or after cycling the bolt but the reticle does shift on occasion and different amounts. I only notice horizontal shift and I only experience horizontal groups shifts and flyers. This is ridiculous. I have run probably 750 rounds through 3 rifle in the last 4 months chasing these 6 or 7 pos scopes. I highly recommend everyone with an issues goes to the bench and dry fires the rifle while watching the reticle. AI am not sure what to do at this point. I guess Iv send them all in because I don't pan off these kinds of headaches to others with the classifieds. What scopes have you guys had true repeatable half minute accuracy with. I have got to do something.
I use Vortex Vipers, Nikon Buckmasters, Leopuld in various flavors 4.5X14 - 24X nothing super expensive. I just haven't had these issues. The 24X grts about 60% f my load work upd and a Vortex 6.5X20 gets the majority of the rest. I have three Vortex and four Buckmasters that are run on my long range target and prairie dog guns. The only true failure I've had was on a Leupold AO 10 that lost the cross hairs. I got it in 75 snd it's had thousands of rounds through it. A week to tye shop and back for free plus I added target turrets and it hasn't missed a lick since.
Greg