Originally Posted By: GreyhunterIts weird how so many people have different results with the same bullets. It's very rare for my friends and I to have fur damage with Vmax bullets, 55's or 60's, and then only on very marginal hits. Our muzzle velocities are only 2700-2900, so maybe thats why they work for us? Generally couldn't even find the hole if the blood wasn't leaking out, while the insides sound like a bucket of rocks and jello and the coyotes usually drop like lightning struck them.
But again, they can be messy on fox.
I agree, there are just too many variables to account for in determining whether a bullet is "fur friendly" or not. I think that most often it has to do with shot placement and the orientation that the animal has to you when the bullet impacts. There can also be variations in bullet velocity that many guys don't/can't account for. Recently my partner, AzBushman, and I were getting ready for a coyote hunting contest, so we went out the day before. We were both running our tried and true trusty PTG-10's in .308, he was running 165 gr Hornady Whitetail and I was running 150 gr Hornady Whitetail SP's. This coyote shows up and Bushman thumps it. When he went for the follow up, which should NOT have been necessary, he finds his gun is stove piped. I see the coyote and draw a bead and nail it. It goes down but then tried to get up. When we inspected the coyote we were shocked to find that my bullet had gone clean through, same sized entry/exit. Bushman's round went in the chest and we found a small exit by the left rear leg. NEITHER one of our bullets expanded the way that we were used to. Later in the day our guns and bullets were running just fine. The variable...it was sub 30's that morning and we determined that our pressures were low so our velocities had dropped. We saw none of the usual pressure indicators on our shells, they were pristine just like they had been fired from bolt guns.
So I think it is hard to really get an apples to apples comparison, which might account for the different results.