#957480 - 04/09/08 06:22 PM
TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
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Here's a batch of TT Cow Horn Tip calls in the works, that I started on the other night. I haven't done an 'online build' in a long time. It's quite taxing to do, so I figured I'd show a pictorial progress on these. Ya'll can watch them turn from horn to call. (What else is there better to do during the boring springtime?  ) Here they are cut and rough drilled.  I'm off to sand these down on the belt sander and cut the toneboards on the sanding disk.... Tony
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#957481 - 04/09/08 06:24 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
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#957482 - 04/09/08 06:52 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
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Tony
You use a bench belt sander correct? How wide is the belt?
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#957483 - 04/09/08 07:02 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
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Thanks Weasel. Creasy, I use a belt sander for the rough sanding and shaping of the call, but I use the disk sander (on the side of the belt sander) for cutting the toneboard. The belt is 4" wide and the disk is 6". I finally bought a stationary sander a couple years ago. Prior to that, I built hundreds of calls on a little portable belt sander mounted upside down in a wood vice. I ruined 4 of them over the years.  I just got done with the next step. I took them to the band saw and cut where the toneboards will start. This gives me a positive spot for the sanding disk to start it's magic. Note the pencil lines. That's where I mark where the bell hollow ends. I leave a 1/4 inch or so (I do this all by eye) to be drilled out later for the air channel and bell to meet.  Ok, off to toneboards and sanding..... Tony
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#957484 - 04/09/08 07:16 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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now this is interesting, i knew there was work involved but now i also get to see the magic. when most people talk about artists they arent thinking of anything like this; well i just wish i could explain it to them so they would understand. hey i'd be nuts then there would be that many more cleaning up all these beautiful calls.
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#957485 - 04/09/08 07:24 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: frshwtr]
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I have the toneboards cut on the disk sander. I do all this by eye and feel, so some are not close to being right and will require a ton more work...some will turn out just right the first shot.
Off to cut air channels with the dremel....
Feel free to ask any questions, guys.
Stay tuned....Tony
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#957486 - 04/09/08 07:26 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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I have been hoping you would do another build on line Thanks
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#957487 - 04/09/08 07:31 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Toney I see that some of the tips curves are longer than others does that determine the desgine of the sound board or do you go with what the curve gives you as far as the sound goes.
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#957488 - 04/09/08 07:35 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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frshwtr, I'm glad you like watching this, because.... This one is your custom one.  It's also the third one in the picture above. Notice that I sanded and buffed part of it to verify the requested color. How's the size?  Tony
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#957489 - 04/09/08 07:39 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Toney I see that some of the tips curves are longer than others does that determine the desgine of the sound board or do you go with what the curve gives you as far as the sound goes.
Good question.
This batch has a mixture of cottontail and jackrabbit calls. The longer toneboards will have a longer air channel on them, thus a deeper sound. I'll cut the air channel to the length that feels right, then shorten the toneboard up to it. I'll show a picture of what I mean, when I get to that stage.
Tony
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#957490 - 04/09/08 07:58 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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if your hand is anything like mine it will give me a good ahndfull, the color looks good too; you know its your judgment that amazes me the most. you just seem to know ahead what someone wants. keep in mind i'm not disappointed in the first call i got from you size finish or anything. i justed wanted another call different color than what i got.
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#957491 - 04/09/08 08:01 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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I'm taking a short break to let the dremel bit cool down. It's starting to scorch the horns. Ooooohh....that smell!  I have air channels cut on half of them. One of them actually through to the bell, without any drilling needed. I held a piece of mylar on it and tested it for sound. Here it is: Initial sounds It don't sound like much, but bare in mind that it was just a piece of horn a few minutes ago.  This one is going to require a bit of sanding on the toneboard, drill out the exhaust port for proper backpressure. When I dremel out the bells, the volume will greatly increase. Tony
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#957492 - 04/09/08 08:08 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Cool post Tony 
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#957493 - 04/09/08 08:08 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Is the the channel under the reed' width and depth determine how much the reed can take before it sticks or is it the lenght of the reed .
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#957494 - 04/09/08 08:11 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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This is great! If you look at the first photo it takes a great deal of imagination to get to the finished call.
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#957495 - 04/09/08 08:11 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: frshwtr]
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if your hand is anything like mine it will give me a good ahndfull, the color looks good too; you know its your judgment that amazes me the most. you just seem to know ahead what someone wants. keep in mind i'm not disappointed in the first call i got from you size finish or anything. i justed wanted another call different color than what i got.
Your call will finish out at 3.5" long and 1.5" bell. It'll be a loud sucker, but will have the pitch to drive those grey fox in your lap.
I don't know about being psychic on what call a person wants. I think it's simple. Get to know your customer, understand their experience level, calling style, targetted predators, calling terrain, etc.....then design them a call specific to their needs. I've been fortunate (married the right woman) to be able to call in a bunch of states and terrain, so it isn't that tough.
This call will be a good match for your 'ultra high' fox call that I built you. It'll be a raspy cottontail with high pitches and squeals and will be able to lay out a grey fox distress that'll echo the woods.
Ok...break time is over. Back to air channels. 
Tony
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#957497 - 04/09/08 08:26 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Sorry Mr T I didn't mean to anger you I am searching for knowlege I know your calls do not stick your turkey call I received has yet to stick. 
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#957498 - 04/09/08 08:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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does the length of the tone board determing what sound it will be like a shorter tone board a higher pitch or louder pitch??
guess i should of read all the posts there you answerd my question a couple posts ago
whats the bell hallow?? is that where the air channel under the reed flow into the bell itself??
Edited by mikeymike (04/09/08 08:48 PM)
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#957499 - 04/09/08 08:54 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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This is great a guy that makes great calls is willing to share his gift and knowledge how with rest of us and to entertain us in the process of making a call.
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#957500 - 04/09/08 08:59 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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i agree asmith and the call he made my brother (elkhorn) is one of the purest sounding howlers there is.. and for him to take time and walk through the steps of building a call and answering our questions is just unbelivable what a great man
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#957501 - 04/09/08 09:04 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Not angered at all ASmith. It was a good question...I was just having some fun with you. To me, a toneboard that sticks under pressure is like having a bolt action rifle that the bolt sticks and jams. Useless in the field. Mikeymike, Yes the air channel length will determine the pitch. Basically, the sound is produced by the reed slapping the toneboard. The longer the reed...the more travel up and down, thus a lower sound frequency/pitch. The shorter a reed, the shorter the travel....thus, higher frequency. Good question. The barrel hollow is the end of the call that I bored out...the exhaust. Ok, the air channels have been cut on these and drilled them to allow air all the way through. I tested them and 5 of them had to be taken back to the sander and do some work on the tip end.  Here's an example of a toneboard that is too flat and one too steep.  The top one is too flat. Very easy to blow, but locks up under pressure, due to not enough arc in the toneboard. The bottom one can handle a ton of pressure, but due to being so steep, it is hard to blow. Both of these are going to re-meet the sanding disk and get new toneboard arcs. I'm recording a couple samples of cottontail -vs- jackrabbit ones now... Tony
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#957502 - 04/09/08 09:04 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Hey mikeymike your stealing my thunder I am trying to suck up! 
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#957504 - 04/09/08 09:11 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Ok, here is a recording of two of the calls. I'm just holding a piece of reed material on them. This is the same reed and I switch it to each call between the two sounds.
Cottontail -vs- Jackrabbit Recording
Ya'll can hear these sound files, correct?
Tony
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#957505 - 04/09/08 09:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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I am starting to see now the flater the board more likely lock up more curve more foregiving of locking up yes or no
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#957506 - 04/09/08 09:13 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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those sound sweet
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#957507 - 04/09/08 09:17 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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I have a choice of American Idol or Mr T i have made the right choice this too much fun.
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#957508 - 04/09/08 09:18 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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You got it ASmith. There's a fine balance between too steep and too flat. Hit it right, and you get a toneboard that's easy to blow and can handle all the pressure you can put on it. Hit it even better, and you'll get rasp and harmonics (multiple pitches at the same time). To me, that's what makes one call seem to produce over others.
Tony
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#957509 - 04/09/08 09:20 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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I have a choice of American Idol or Mr T i have made the right choice this too much fun.
You're making me blush!
Believe me, my wife and 4 kids are watching the Idol Gives Back show without me...and their not real happy about it. I wanted to watch it, but really need to get these calls done.
Ok....Now that all the toneboards are working, it's time to shape the call on the belt sander. I'm going to give them all an ergonomic fit. You'll see a big difference in them. I've been calling in Texas, quite a few times, and got nickel size blood blisters on my lip from calling from sunset to sunrise for 4 to 7 nights straight. I've learned to design a toneboard that fits right in the mouth. It'll make them alot more comfortable, easier to control, and allow you to hold the call in your mouth, hands-free, while getting down on your scope.
Be right back (10 mins) with some more pictures....
Tony
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Edited by TonyTebbe (04/09/08 09:24 PM)
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#957510 - 04/09/08 09:30 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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This is great stuff, Tony. I am sitting here with the wireless laptop watching you create another masterpiece and watching Idol Gives Back at the same time. Pretty great stuff on both accounts. 
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#957511 - 04/09/08 09:31 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Tony does the thickness between the vertical cut on the front of the tone board and where the barrel (bore) start effect the sound ?
you haven't missed anything on Idol Tony, Carrie Underwood just got done singing and she was topless, but ya haven't missed much!
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#957512 - 04/09/08 09:40 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: tjones]
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Creasy that was just mean dont distract Tony .
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#957513 - 04/09/08 09:47 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Ya if he hacks off a finger I will feel bad!
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#957514 - 04/09/08 09:50 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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did i miss much while i was away??? had to do hunny do this and hunny do thats for the pregnant wife
 so when shaping the tone boards its there a certian shape or is it just getting that right feel on the lips where it is comfortable??
Edited by mikeymike (04/09/08 09:57 PM)
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#957517 - 04/09/08 10:04 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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T hope the wife isn't standing behind you!
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#957518 - 04/09/08 10:05 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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#957519 - 04/09/08 10:10 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Ok, now they are all shaped and rough sanded. They are starting to look like calls now.  To answer Mikeymike, I shape them by eye for fit in the mouth. I try to give them a shape like those old Slow Poke chocolate suckers that would kind of melt into a taffy and shape to your mouth when you sucked on them. It just fits right. Tony
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#957520 - 04/09/08 10:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Are you going in when she has the baby if so take care it can get rough but well worth it .
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#957521 - 04/09/08 10:13 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Idol Gives Back must be over....wife is here. I'm going to stop building calls for tonight, as I need to work on my daughter's taxes. Heck, I've got to eat some dinner, still. We'll finish this project tomorrow night. Hope ya'll come back.  Thanks guys.....Tony
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#957522 - 04/09/08 10:17 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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whew, his wife showed up, switched to page 3 just in the nick of time! I'll be back
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#957523 - 04/09/08 10:18 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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I will be here!
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#957524 - 04/09/08 10:18 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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yeah im going in while she has the baby first biological kid cant pass up the chance to be there
ill try to be here heck cant miss it made it this far and it been fun ill be here
Edited by mikeymike (04/09/08 10:20 PM)
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#957525 - 04/09/08 10:21 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Good Man 
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#957526 - 04/09/08 10:23 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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thanks asmith
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#957527 - 04/09/08 10:23 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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#957528 - 04/09/08 10:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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What size cow horn do you usually start with? I've got a few small ones, but they're hollow nearly to the tip
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#957529 - 04/09/08 10:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Weasel-UT]
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Wow this is a way cool post one of these days I am going to buy one of these calls! Hopefully this summer, right now no time for work FINALES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! 
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#957530 - 04/09/08 10:46 PM
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 544
Loc: Nebraska
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Enjoying the information Tony!!!Any chance you can give me a sneak peak of the call your doing for me if its in this lineup???How many years have you been building the cow horn calls??Mark
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#957531 - 04/09/08 10:50 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: lungpopper]
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Registered: 04/09/07
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Loc: Dayton, ohio
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I think its very nice of you to share your artistry with such a detailed how-to.
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#957532 - 04/09/08 11:11 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
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Well, I'm done filing my daughter's taxes. That sure didn't take long. To answer a few questions: - My wife knows how I feel about Carrie Underwood. She mopped up my drool for me, when we seen Carrie in concert, last month.  We sat 3 feet from her singing.  - These tips came from all different sized horns. Some where 6" long, others were 25" long. It's a solid tip that I look for, no matter what the horn length. If a horn is hollow to the very tip, I sell it to other howler builders that can use it for inserted toneboards. I made plenty of them in the past and that horn shape works great for it. - Mark, I remember us talking about a cow horn tip call, but couldn't remember if you wanted cottontail or jackrabbit. One of these will be yours. PM me what type again. I'm going to grab a bite to eat, take a shower, and go have a couple/three drinks at the karaoke bar with my wife. I'll be back to finish these with ya'll tomorrow night. Thanks...Tony
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#957533 - 04/09/08 11:27 PM
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[Re: ASmith]
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Predator Master
Registered: 01/01/07
Posts: 83
Loc: Waunakee, WI
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I thought I missed out on the build when I saw it was three pages long!! Glad to see I can tune in tomorrow night. Looks like I will be leaving work on time for a change, thanks Tony  BTW, Looks like a sweet batch of calls!!
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#957535 - 04/10/08 04:34 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: fitdjr]
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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I missed this last night but I will be watching tonight. Thanks for the pictorial it's great to watch the calls being made.
Will these calls be sold after they are complete, if so I am interested in a jackrabbit tone call.
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#957536 - 04/10/08 06:48 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: dustinyotes]
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Nice job Tony, really enjoying this post. Its entertaining and I'm learning a lot. Always admire your ability to make sound boards. 9th 
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#957537 - 04/10/08 06:55 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ninthinning]
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Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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I am ready for class . MrT in the House . Here in Mo. got some nasty weather hope everone up north is ok it's coming your way Iowa.
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#957539 - 04/10/08 07:25 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Madtown]
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im here too
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#957540 - 04/10/08 07:26 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Madtown]
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Die Hard Member
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Loc: northern utah county, utah
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wheres the teacher at??
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#957541 - 04/10/08 07:32 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Madtown]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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I'm right here guys. I'll need to eat dinner before we start.
What you guys watched, last night, was my mass machining of 13 calls. When going from machine to machine, it works out best to do a batch of them. We got all the rough work out of the way. But...we took a good break point, where we left off. Now comes the part where each call has to have personal attention to it. This where the customization of each call comes into play for it to earn a "TT" mark.
I will select 3 calls to finish tonight. The process will go much slower than last night. They will go from rough state to tuned, bored, sanded, polished, re-tuned, etc... I'll make sure I record plenty of before/during/after sound files, so that you can see what goes into each one. The rest of the batch will get worked on next week, as we are leaving to visit the parents in Illinois for the weekend.
We'll finish the following:
Frshwtr's call - raspy cottontail with high pitched squeals on the tip. SDCoyotecaller's call - black colored jackrabbit with deep raspy squauls and good volume. Lungpopper's call - red/white striped cottontail with raspy meduim/high pitch and screaming tip.
PS. 10 of the 13 are custom orders, I should have 3 available if they all make the mark.
Let me eat dinner and we'll start in 45-60 or so.
Thanks all.....Tony
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#957542 - 04/10/08 08:06 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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PM Junkie
Registered: 02/13/06
Posts: 11351
Loc: Salina, Kansas
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I missed this last night!  Looks like I may miss most of it tonight as well. Darn it!!  Oh well, it's all good!  I love these threads from Tony!!!  {Now, if I can just get online at the correct time to get one of his high-screamin' CT tips,  the overtime I'm working will be worth it!  }
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#957543 - 04/10/08 08:19 PM
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[Re: canislatrans54]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
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Loc: Lovington, NM
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We're going to have to play this by ear guys. We have tornado sirens going off like crazy. My wife is on storm watch outside, while I'm getting reeds cut for these calls.
Tony
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#957544 - 04/10/08 08:20 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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T we can do this another night take care .
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#957545 - 04/10/08 08:20 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: northern utah county, utah
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wow great guy (or crazy) if we had tonrado sirens here and they were going off i would be hiding
we should do this another night
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#957546 - 04/10/08 08:35 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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I think it'd be best if we postpone this till Monday night. I need to go take care of the family, until this monster storm passes.
Tony
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#957547 - 04/10/08 08:37 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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#957548 - 04/10/08 08:38 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: canislatrans54]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: northern utah county, utah
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aight take care see you on monday
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#957549 - 04/10/08 08:43 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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No problem, see you Monday.
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#957550 - 04/10/08 08:51 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 234
Loc: Afton VA USA
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Tony, You and your family will be in our prayers. Take Care, Dana
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#957551 - 04/10/08 09:00 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: littlepig99]
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#957552 - 04/10/08 09:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Madtown]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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Hey Tony,
I was just finally able to pop in here and see how things were going. We are having a nasty blizzard up here in SD. The lights keep going off and on, so I am trying to get on between power outages. I will take 5 feet of snow over a dang tornado anyday. Keep yourself and the family safe, and we will catch you on Monday night. Take care Tony.
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#957553 - 04/10/08 10:19 PM
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#957554 - 04/10/08 10:46 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Weasel-UT]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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All is safe here now guys....as far as I know. I ended up watching the sky and talking on the phone about predator hunting for the past 2 hours.  Tony
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#957555 - 04/10/08 11:04 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 544
Loc: Nebraska
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that is good to hear Tony!! Mon. nite sounds good
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#957556 - 04/10/08 11:23 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: lungpopper]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: northern utah county, utah
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thats good to hear that all is well have a good trip this weekend
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#957557 - 04/11/08 09:47 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 2996
Loc: Utah
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Good to hear you guys made it through the storm! I'm excited to see the progress on the calls.
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#957558 - 04/11/08 11:43 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: cjg_beef]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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Glad to hear that you and your family are OK. Looking forward to Monday to watch you finish the calls.
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#957559 - 04/11/08 07:05 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: dustinyotes]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 2089
Loc: Oregon
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Awesome tutorial Tony. I have both the min and max cyanide resin calls and love them, but am going to have to break down and get the real thing someday.
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#957560 - 04/14/08 06:14 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: bowhunt32]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: northern utah county, utah
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I would love to be here tonight for the rest of this but my wife says i have to go to birthday dinner  so i will check in when i get back and see how things went hopefully are going hate missing the rest of this have fun guys
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#957561 - 04/14/08 06:34 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: mikeymike]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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mikeymike get sick fake pukeing fart a couple times she will let you stay home works for me every time.
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#957562 - 04/14/08 06:38 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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We're going to go grab a bite to eat for dinner and we'll get started back on this project guys, somewhere around 7ish.
Cya...
Tony
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#957563 - 04/14/08 08:16 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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I'm right here guys. I'll need to eat dinner before we start.
What you guys watched, last night, was my mass machining of 13 calls. When going from machine to machine, it works out best to do a batch of them. We got all the rough work out of the way. But...we took a good break point, where we left off. Now comes the part where each call has to have personal attention to it. This where the customization of each call comes into play for it to earn a "TT" mark.
I will select 3 calls to finish tonight. The process will go much slower than last night. They will go from rough state to tuned, bored, sanded, polished, re-tuned, etc... I'll make sure I record plenty of before/during/after sound files, so that you can see what goes into each one. The rest of the batch will get worked on next week, as we are leaving to visit the parents in Illinois for the weekend.
We'll finish the following:
Frshwtr's call - raspy cottontail with high pitched squeals on the tip. SDCoyotecaller's call - black colored jackrabbit with deep raspy squauls and good volume. Lungpopper's call - red/white striped cottontail with raspy meduim/high pitch and screaming tip.
PS. 10 of the 13 are custom orders, I should have 3 available if they all make the mark.
Well here's the 3 calls that we'll try to finish:
Call 1 - Frshwtr's call - raspy cottontail with high pitched squeals on the tip.
Call 2 - SDCoyotecaller's call - black colored jackrabbit with deep raspy squauls and good volume.
Call 3 - Lungpopper's call - red/white striped cottontail with raspy meduim/high pitch and screaming tip.

I took the dremel and cleaned up the toneboard, where the sanding disk can't reach. Note the bottom/left of each toneboard isn't square. That has to do with using a round sanding disk.
Next, I cut band grooves for the castration band with the dremel and cut reed for each call to begin the tuning process. In addition, I dremeled out the air channel better to make a smoother cleaner look and add volume.

Here is the recordings of each. We've got a bunch of work to do on these. Each one of them has a tip that sticks and not in tune with what each customer requests.
Call 1 Sound File
Call 2 Sound File
Call 3 Sound File
Next, I'll take each to an emery board and start sanding them back and forth to get the toneboard where it needs to be.
Be back....
Tony
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#957564 - 04/14/08 08:24 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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Do you make a reed for each calls dimensions, board width and length.
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#957565 - 04/14/08 08:29 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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Yes. Basically, I cut mylar strips and use a pencil to mark the airchannel and castration band grooves. Then I hand cut each reed, specifically for that call.
Tony
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#957566 - 04/14/08 08:50 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Registered: 10/31/03
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Loc: Lovington, NM
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I went to work on the toneboards and have the flat spots out of the tips. I had to resand and entire different toneboard arc on Call 1, as I couldn't get the pitch to raise with just an emery board mods. All 3 calls are starting to show the signature "TT" rasp to them, but it's time to work on the bell end, before the fine tuning begins.  I'm going to bore out these raw bell ends, by hand with a dremel bit. I'm looking to clean them up, but more importantly, increase volume and give each call the proper back pressure. Feel free to fire away quetions again guys. Be right back....
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#957567 - 04/14/08 09:01 PM
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[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 234
Loc: Afton VA USA
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Tony, What do you mean by proper back pressure?
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#957568 - 04/14/08 09:02 PM
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[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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I finally made it in, Tony. I am looking forward to the transformation.
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#957569 - 04/14/08 09:02 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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I guess you us a step bit on the bells ,is the thinner the bell the better?
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#957570 - 04/14/08 09:07 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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My definition of proper backpressure, is giving the call the right amount of back pressure that'll give enough resisitance to produce rasp when blowing hard on the call. Too much pressure, and the call will be choked down from it's volume potential. Not enough pressure, and the call sounds like....well, a store bought elk call being passed off as a predator call.
As far as thinner bell on a distress call, it really doesn't make much of a difference on such a short barrelled call. I choose a wall thickness that's not heavy on the lanyard, but thick enough to resist generations of use.
I have the bells bored out, but two of them have separation rings in them (normal on horns). I had to fill them up with superglue and waiting for them to set, before testing them.
Good questions...
Tony
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#957571 - 04/14/08 09:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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While the two of them are drying, I'm going to take Call 2 and start sanding it with the orbital sander. Again, I usually do these one at a time at this stage, so I'm trying to multi-task.
BRB...
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#957572 - 04/14/08 09:19 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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Do the separation rings go through the entire wall of the horn or are they not that deep?
And when you glue them do you clamp them or just fill with glue and let dry?
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#957573 - 04/14/08 09:21 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Custom Call Maker
Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 3332
Loc: Hamilton Montana
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what thickness mylar are ya useing?
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#957574 - 04/14/08 09:38 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: tjones]
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Registered: 10/31/03
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Each seperation ring is different, some don't run deep, some run really deep. In the case of Call 1, it ran very deep. I filled it 1/2 up with thin superglue, then let it set. I filled it the rest of the way up, then filled it with a powder to build a solid bridge. Then covered it again with more thin superglue. In it's case, the powder I used was hippo ivory dust. It'll harden like a rock and be very solid.  I use 10 mil mylar for everything. I had to doublecheck the packing slip on it, as it's been 5 years since I ordered it. I had an 18" x 20 foot roll. I'm glad you asked, because now I see my roll is only 2 feet or so. Time to order a bunch more. Tony
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#957575 - 04/14/08 09:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
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I just finished sanding Call 2 with the orbital sander. Here is the progress. 150 Grit  220 Grit  400 Grit  Time to retest it and make final toneboard adjustments, before buffing. BRB....
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#957576 - 04/14/08 09:42 PM
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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Looking good, Tony. 
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#957577 - 04/14/08 09:45 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 496
Loc: odessa mo.
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Do ya keep hippo ivory dust on hand cause I 'am all out woonder if I could steal cup from ya. 
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#957578 - 04/14/08 09:58 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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Could you use the dust from sanding the cow horn to fill the seperation or does that not work as well?
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#957579 - 04/14/08 09:58 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
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Loc: Lovington, NM
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I did some fine tuning on the toneboard. Part of building a custom call is getting to know your customer. This call is for Mark (SDCoyoteCaller). I know his calling style and the areas he's calling. He needs a call that's easy to blow, can handle a bunch of air, and has really good volume to reach the timbered draws that he calls to from the South Dakota grassy knolls. Call 2 Sound Test Drive Tell me what you think Mark. If you like it, I'll give it the "TT" engraving and start buffing. Tony
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#957580 - 04/14/08 10:02 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Retired PM Staff.
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Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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I could use the horn dust (I have buckets of it) but the ivory is a much finer powder and really fills in good.
Tony
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#957581 - 04/14/08 10:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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#957582 - 04/14/08 10:14 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 12/23/07
Posts: 347
Loc: middle of utah
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Mikeymike can't fake sick its his B-Day dinner. the big 27 hopefully thats right.
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#957583 - 04/14/08 10:29 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: rockyfordjoe]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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Buffing is complete on Call 2. I engraved my initials and filled them with white paint. Now it's time for a final buffing with a clean cotton rag and then 2 coats of lacquer.  Tony
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#957584 - 04/14/08 10:32 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 2089
Loc: Oregon
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Tony, are all of these custom orders or otherwise spoken for?
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#957585 - 04/14/08 10:35 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: bowhunt32]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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Ten of the 13 are custom orders. I will have 3 available, but I don't know which ones yet. What you looking for cottontail or jackrabbit?
Thanks...Tony
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#957586 - 04/14/08 10:36 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: bowhunt32]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 1200
Loc: Utah
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What do you use to put the TT in the horn, dremel? or something else.
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#957587 - 04/14/08 10:39 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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Looking good, Tony.
I was wondering if you try and avoid getting much laquer on the top part of the toneboard or doesn't it matter, as long as it is layed down nice and smooth. In other words, does putting laquer down on the toneboard affect the sound? I would think that this is the area that would need the most protection because of moisture, so I assume it doesn't matter. Thanks.
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#957588 - 04/14/08 10:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 2089
Loc: Oregon
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By far my favorite call is the cyanide mini. Love the sound and pitch, so a guess cottontail would be my answer, but would like a bit more volume. As you can see by my avatar my calling county is WIDE open.
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#957589 - 04/14/08 10:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: chazwho2]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 218
Loc: SE Idaho
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Tony, when these are done if you have any available in jackrabbit I would love to have one to go with my cottontail that I bought from you a couple of weeks ago. Just let my know how much. Thanks
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#957590 - 04/14/08 10:59 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: dustinyotes]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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I use a dremel with a dental burr.
Mark, I try not to get too much lacquer on the toneboard. I retest it once dry. About 50% of the time I have to use the emery board on it and remove the lacquer buildup. I then spray my fingertip and wipe it across the toneboard to lightly seal it. Unsealed horn....smells (and tastes) like sulfur when wet.
Bowhunt32, let me see what is available out of this batch. If it doesn't do what your looking for, I'll build you one.
Dustinyotes, I have you marked down for a jackrabbit already out of this batch.
Once this call is dry, I'll post the final pics and sound files. The other two calls are still drying and will have to wait for another night's session.
Tony
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#957591 - 04/14/08 11:03 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 2089
Loc: Oregon
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Tony I'll pm you for the particulars.
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#957592 - 04/14/08 11:07 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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Quote:
Mark, I try not to get too much lacquer on the toneboard. I retest it once dry. About 50% of the time I have to use the emery board on it and remove the lacquer buildup. I then spray my fingertip and wipe it across the toneboard to lightly seal it. Unsealed horn....smells (and tastes) like sulfur when wet.
Thanks! I always wondered about that with the one piece howlers and the cowhorn tip calls.
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#957593 - 04/14/08 11:11 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: bowhunt32]
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Custom Call Maker
Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 3332
Loc: Hamilton Montana
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just back from dinner with my wife, dang missed a bunch,,, dang woman!!!,,where do you get the stuff you buff it with the Tripoli, I think you call it?
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#957594 - 04/14/08 11:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: tjones]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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It's a stick of rouge, like a bar of soap. It's wax with a grit in it. The kind I have is made by Dremel. I bought it at Menards (a local home improvement store).
Tony
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#957595 - 04/14/08 11:13 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: tjones]
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Custom Call Maker
Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 3332
Loc: Hamilton Montana
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Oh ya and dental burr where do you get them? I was thinkin a guy could heist them from the dentist when he wasn't lookin, for what the charge I wouldn't feel guilty
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#957596 - 04/14/08 11:21 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: tjones]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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My sister-in-law is a dental hygienist and has been saving me dental burrs for the past 5-6 years. I have 200+ of them. It's amazing all the shapes and sizes. Most are very, very tiny...great for hair detail on engraving coyotes.
Tony
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#957597 - 04/14/08 11:41 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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Here is the final product: Final Sound File I will work on the other calls, each night this week. Thanks for watching guys.....Tony
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#957598 - 04/14/08 11:42 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ASmith]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: northern utah county, utah
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thanks for the idea asmith but it wouldnt work since it was my birthday dinner.... darn the luck
looks like i missed a bunch you do wonderful work tony
Edited by mikeymike (04/14/08 11:44 PM)
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#957599 - 04/14/08 11:51 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 1941
Loc: South Dakota
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Wow!!! It looks and sounds perfect, Tony.  First rate all the way.  I can't wait to give it a try. Thanks again.
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#957600 - 04/15/08 12:03 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: SDCoyoteCaller]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 544
Loc: Nebraska
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just got on here Tony,looking forward to see my call(#3)and even more excited to try it,the other Mark from Nebraska..thanks Tony
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#957601 - 04/15/08 12:04 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: lungpopper]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 544
Loc: Nebraska
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how late are you going tonite???
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#957602 - 04/15/08 12:11 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: lungpopper]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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I'm pretty much done for tonight. I'm at a good breakpoint and can't rush the process. That's when quality suffers.
I'll keep progress pics and sound files of the other two calls.
Tony
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#957603 - 04/15/08 12:13 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 01/12/07
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#957604 - 04/15/08 12:24 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: lungpopper]
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Retired PM Staff
Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 20007
Loc: S.W. Utah
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These threads sure are fun. Thanks for letting us watch over your shoulder, Tony
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#957605 - 04/15/08 08:10 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: Weasel-UT]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 2265
Loc: America
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First class post Tony! Thank you, 9th
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#957606 - 04/15/08 11:34 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: ninthinning]
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PM senior
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 6488
Loc: west michigan
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Nice post Tony!! I'll bet your shop smells gooooood 
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#957607 - 04/15/08 12:32 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: catwhacker]
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Retired PM Staff.
Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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You have no idea (well, maybe YOU do).  I've been on a horn streak for the past few months and the smell and dust has pretty much permiated everything in my shop...and garage...and house...and neighborhood...  Man, I love being a Redneck! Tony
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#957608 - 04/15/08 02:40 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 2996
Loc: Utah
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You have no idea (well, maybe YOU do). I've been on a horn streak for the past few months and the smell and dust has pretty much permiated everything in my shop...and garage...and house...and neighborhood... 
Man, I love being a Redneck!
Tony
You could patent the smell and make a cologne called "Redneck"... The tag-line would be something like..."Want women to leave you alone... Want to keep your neighbors from bugging you... then use Redneck"
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#1827861 - 02/03/11 10:54 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: cjg_beef]
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Predator Master
Registered: 02/13/10
Posts: 59
Loc: usa
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How much for one of these calls tony?
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#1827887 - 02/03/11 11:10 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: johnny223]
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18681
Loc: Lovington, NM
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My horn tip calls are $35 + $2 shipping. They are my highest requested custom calls.
Let me know if you want one built for ya.
Thanks...Tony
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#1828652 - 02/03/11 08:51 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Predator Master
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Posts: 59
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#1873856 - 03/10/11 03:12 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: johnny223]
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Predator Master
Registered: 03/08/11
Posts: 56
Loc: Mohave Desert, CA
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Fantastic article...informative and interesting...made more so by reader comments. I especially enjoyed the evolution of the calls. The sound bites were especially illustrative. I'm curious, does anyone do the same thing with buffalo horn tips or is this even doable?
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#2223943 - 05/25/12 07:05 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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#2279771 - 08/30/12 12:01 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 08/21/10
Posts: 359
Loc: Utah
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Hit it even better, and you'll get rasp and harmonics (multiple pitches at the same time). To me, that's what makes one call seem to produce over others.
Tony Tony, Do your production calls hit the harmonics that you mention above. Great thread by the way. I just found it.
Edited by PredatorSlayer1 (08/30/12 11:53 AM)
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#2825524 - 04/22/15 01:57 AM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: dustinyotes]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 109
Loc: Michigan
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west system fiber glass has a filler.
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#2836200 - 06/02/15 10:36 PM
Re: TT - Cow Horn Tip Calls - Pictorial Progress on this batch
[Re: TonyTebbe]
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Seasoned Member
Registered: 04/15/15
Posts: 101
Loc: Central Alberta
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Ate the farm in the last week,some de-horning was done. I saved a few of the best in the pile. Not my thing, but they sure are impressive in the end. I could UPS these to someone who would use them. I'm in central Alberta. Phone works too. 780-405-6930 Darrel.
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