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#95368 - 01/31/05 06:55 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Skinner2 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 664
Loc: South East Michigan, Downriver
Duplicate post. back button yea right!
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#95369 - 02/02/05 01:29 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
Stumped Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 65
Loc: Central Texas
Thanks Rich
If it’s OK I will add those to my library.
I have to get me one of your howlers.

GOOD SOUNDS

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#95370 - 02/02/05 08:19 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
Stumped,
You have my permission sir. Folks with new Loudmouth or Fox pro callers whould be able to load the sounds from the computer, and directly into the caller.
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#95371 - 02/02/05 09:42 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Hobbes Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 50
Loc: Helena, MT
When I try to open up any of the .wav files, they download in about 1min. (dialup), then when they have downloaded I get an "access to device path denied". What the heck is that?

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#95372 - 02/03/05 08:26 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
The above links seem to be playing on "Quick time", at least they are on MY computer. Try downloading Quick time and try that.
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#95373 - 02/03/05 01:27 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
ALLEGANREM17 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/22/02
Posts: 29
Loc: Allegan,MI USA
What's everyone's thoughts on howling at night? I only do it in the daytime.

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#95374 - 02/03/05 03:49 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
yippy Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 268
Loc: Muskegon, MI
ALLEGANREM17 I have no luck with them at night. But then again I have no luck in the day either.
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#95375 - 02/03/05 07:34 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Skinner2 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 664
Loc: South East Michigan, Downriver
They work at night in Southern Michigan.

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#95376 - 02/03/05 07:35 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
ALLEGANREM17,
Howling at night is a good technique to use during spring, for purpose of locating den area's. This time of the year I don't howl until I am ready to shoot the coyotes. Since I don't hunt them at night very often, my howling is done in daytime.
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#95377 - 02/05/05 10:34 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Hobbes Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 50
Loc: Helena, MT
Rich,
I have been listening to howls on Randy Anderson's video and I finally downloaded yours from above. I've heard coyotes my whole life but never really listened to them until now. This morning I gave it a whirl and just after first light, in an area I heard some howling a couple weeks ago, I let loose with my best lonesome howl. I got a response from what I would guess to be a male with what sounded like your aggressive sounds, several barks and some aggressive howls, from about 4 or 500 yds. Before I could respond the whole pack cut loose close by to the male for 20 seconds or so. I was able to return my best rendition of the same agressive howls but, I thought, sounding younger. I then used the KIYI. They never did show.

It sounded to me like the dominate male was telling me to "stay back" that "he was running this pack". The wind swirled on me a time or two and that may have given me away.

Will coyotes respond in much the same way that maybe a herd bull would? Giving you a response to warn you and then pushing his herd away from any threat. I know they don't always come in, but they reacted in such a text book fashion compared to your above comments that I was pumped expecting them to be on top of me. And It was pretty unlikely they were able to circle me without me seeing them. I also don't think they have been pressured by any other callers.

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#95378 - 02/06/05 05:28 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
Will coyotes respond in much the same way that maybe a herd bull would? Giving you a response to warn you and then pushing his herd away from any threat.

Hobbes,
I believe that momma coyote will sometimes guide her young away from danger during early summer when she is teaching them to hunt. I don't think they really give a hoot what happens to other members of the family at this time of the year, except for their chosen mate. We as humans, can only guess as to what coyotes are thinking. The last time I experienced a scene such as you describe, it turned out that there was a very deep gorge between me and the coyotes. One thing I am fairly sure of is that the aggressive coyote you heard, was calling you some pretty bad names.
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#95379 - 02/06/05 08:47 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
vmax_blaster Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 1256
Loc: Michigan
Rich, I've been howling for just a couple of years and have a couple of instructional tapes, and have a hard time telling an interrigation howl from an invitational, could you explain the slight difference to me or maybe put a female invitational howl on-line so i can listen to yours. Thank you.

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#95380 - 02/06/05 10:40 AM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
vmax_blaster,
Listed to my lonesome howl, and use that sound for your invitation. Listen to my challenge howls and use one of those for your interrogation. I will likely get some flak over the next thing I am going to say. I have seen very experienced coyote men mistake a male challenge for a female challenge howl. Old male coyotes sometimes have very high pitched squeal at end of their challenge howl. Old female coyotes sometimes have a low pitched, throaty howl and make you think she has to be a male. That is why I have dubbed my own howls as young coyote or old coyote rather than male or female howls.
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#95381 - 02/06/05 08:19 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
turkeylizzard Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 90
Loc: Anson County,N.C.
Is howling O.K. when hunting bobcats and coyotes from the same stand?

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#95382 - 02/06/05 08:25 PM Re: Howling for coyotes
Rich Cronk Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 7135
Loc: Western Iowa
turkeylizzard,
I would not howl when trying to call cats. I know that cats do sometimes come in, even after a howl but I personally would not do it.
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