Hey guys, im a noobie kinda to howling anyway and I know that the yotes are breeding now so I have some questions reguarding the "female invitaion howl".

How much do you use it at a stand. Do you let it run for 2-3 "howls" or do you let it run for a "set" amout of time, say 5 min?
When a yote replies to the female invite what should you do? Howl back using the inve again or start up with a distress sound? Or would you do a male challenge howl or a lonsome howl or what? Im open for everyones info.
thanks
carl

i like the group howl

I have some Info for the hunters of PA, The female invitations are made from christmas till jan 15th. and then theres a lul in vocalizations till mid to late feb. Then they seem to start talking again.

Great post Rich,i been howling eveynight when i get home and had not one cote respond,within the last month or so.could they be quite this time of year since they are starting to drop there pups,or most likely i am howling wrong,howling takes alot of practice,really any open reed,i try to practice as much as possible.If they do respond all the domestic dogs in my area start going bersrk and can't hear if a cote is singing,LOL.

When out locateing at nite the coyotes are not going to answer you every time. I usually have my best luck when the sky is clear and no moon and very little wind.. I also found out my hearing is'nt the greastest so i take my 10 year old son along when out locateing and he can hear them over 3/4 of a mile away. Once located then i move around and get closer so i can hear them and then I can tell how many there are and if there are any young ones in the bunch..
Howling is a usefull tool but it can also ruin youre stands. dureing the summer and early fall the pups will tend to shy away from howling. Most are still trying to establish there own territorie or maybe still with mom and pop and they are'nt looking to get there butts kicked yet..
The howling will work to get in the older coyotes but animal distress sounds would be best to use if you are after the yoy and then you may also get an adult to respond also...
I like to use rabbit distress on my stands first and as a last resort go to a howl.. but if i'm targeting older coyotes then i use just coyote vocals and this is done later in the year...T/[beeep]

that happened to me the other night, that coyote was mad, but wouldn't come in to range. next time i'll have the rifle not the shotgun.

I would sure like to hear those sounds in the first three threads of this post by Rich Cronk, but when I try to open any of them I get a white screen saying "DNS ERROR." Anyone know how I can get to listen to these?? Sure would appreciate any help.

Jim

DNS means the server is down or is no longer available.

Most of the links to sounds that I posted earlier in this thread have been lost. There is a lot of talk about coyote language out there, which is good but can also confuse a guy. The two most important coyote sounds to use when calling coyotes to the howler are the lonesome howl and the pup squeals. Here is a link to one version of a lonesome howl http://www.cronkpredatorcalls.com/sounds/lonehowls.mp3
and here is another http://www.cronkpredatorcalls.com/sounds/moldedHwlrlone.mp3
pup squeals http://www.cronkpredatorcalls.com/sounds/moldedHowlerPup.mp3

Thanks Rich that is helpful. I appreciate that very much. Thanks again.

Jim

Does anyone know about what volume level should be used if using a siren to locate the dogs?? My friend and I went out last night using his Fire Siren. I tried to muffle the siren some (stuffed a t-shirt in the horn and turned it upside down on the ground) because it was so ear piercing from ten yards away, this seem to really help however it was still loud enough to carry through the valleys here in Eastern West Virginia. We know the coyotes are traveling this area very heavily from the amount of tracks and droppings they are leaving behind. We just aren't having any luck on trying to locate them.

Also forgot to add that after calling sequence no dogs answered except for some neighbors dogs way down the road..

I have never used a siren for locating, but if I did I would run it at full volume.