#907520 - 02/20/08 11:08 PM
2008 Dtech Egg Shoot (Lots of Pics)
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I am waiting for Bob to send me some pictures from the field, so I will go ahead and skip ahead to Saturday and the egg shoot. After sitting around Redfrog's room visiting all night, I slept latter than I intended, and didn't get up until 8 am. I was supposed to be meeting RanUtah and Redfrog for breakfast in the casino restruant, and arrived red eyed and few minutes late. After breakfast, went back and changed clothes and got my gun and rode to the Globe-Miami Gun club for the shoot. The gun club was gracious enought to let us use their facility this year, and it was much better than the dump site on the rez. I arrived to find many of the guys already there, and few of them had already been out hunting that morning. Rustydog (John Brody) and Richard Cruise had connected on a coyote that morning not far from the golf course next to the rez. The weather Saturday morning was probably the best we had since we had been there, and the dogs were moving after the bad weather we had on Friday.  Venatic (David Stroud) and Leal (Billy Leal) had been huting off the rez that morning, and Venatic missed a fox by "this much". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />  Dogbboy and RanUtah After everyone arrived, checked in and had thier guns weighed, Mr. Willis with the gun club gave us our instructions.  Mr. Willis, Tip Golston, Blumpkin (Scott Lytle), Yotenighthunter (Stephen Skaggs) and Jim Farris.  Redfrog, RanUtah, Knock'emdown (Freddy Ruehman), Rustydog, and Leal listen in.  Rustydog, s_wSniper and Arizona Moose are interested bystanders. Here is what we were all shooting for:
The egg-shoot gun. 20" broach-cut SUM barrel, 1:8 twist, Olympic Arms free-float tube, bi-pod stud, the barrel is fluted and has the integral compensator. It has the Magpul CTR telescoping stock, Magpul MIAD full grip set and also comes with the tuned Rock River two-stage national match trigger.
The parts for this gun were donated by Olympic Arms, Magpul Inc. and Rock River Arms. 
Edited by Yellowhammer (04/04/15 12:18 AM)
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#907521 - 02/20/08 11:21 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Yellowhammer]
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After we had gotten our instructions from Mr. Willis and Ragn Cajn we drew numbers to determine the order of the shoots. I was in the first stage, and #2. We started the egg shoot at 200 yards, and we all got 2 practice shots (at the same time in 1 minutes). The guns going off while I was trying to focus in on the targer were a little unnerving to me.   Yotenighthunter, Yellowhammer, knock'emdown, genisis and Venatic on the firing line. Dogboy was spotting for me.  Onefoot was watching the events unfold.  And lilDtech (Marshall Milli) was watching the hits up close, as RagnCajn oversees the firing line.  The second heat of shooters were from left to right, (Blumpkin was actually in the first heat, he was just slow getting up <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />), derbyacresbob, and James Farris.
Edited by Yellowhammer (04/04/15 12:22 AM)
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#907522 - 02/20/08 11:45 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Yellowhammer]
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 Blumkin was also in the first heat, and Billy Leal and jimanaz were spotting.  The second heat also included Tip Goldston, Michael McCasland and Billy Leal. Shooting sticks were the big equalizer in this event. All shooters had to use the same identical sets of Predator Sniper Sticks (Donated by Brent Rueb). Let me tell you an egg looks pretty small at 200 yards, so whenever my cross hairs waved past the egg, I would pull the trigger. Needless to say, I didn't advance. After the first stage (11 shooters at 200 yards), only 4 shooters broke their egg. Genisis, Tip Goldston, James Farris, and Michael McCasland. We then proceded to the 300 yards where Jim Farris was the only one to hit the egg making him the winner. We then moved back to 200 yards where the remainin 3 had a one shot shoot off. Each shooter had one chance to break his egg, and after each had fired, not one hit. After the second round of the shoot off, only genisis hit making him the second place winner, and leaving a tie for third between Tip and MJM. After first and second were determined, the all the losers got their name in the hat for the 6 pairs of Predator Sniper Styx. I guess I really am unlucky, because even with a 6 out of 9 chance of winning, I still lost. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />  Winners of the shooting sticks: MJM, Venatic, Blumpkin, yotenighthunter, Tip and knock'emdown.  genesis and Dtech discussion what had just taken place, and jimanaz looks on. After the competition was over, we let the younger guys shoot at some eggs at 100 yards.   Deano's (Dean Milligan) two grandsons. Believe it or not, I could hit the egg at 100, and I could even use my ballistic plex recticle to hit the hog sillioute at 325 yards, and ring the 300 yard gong. It was a heck of a lot of fun, and after the shoot, many of the guys went back out hunting. For the mods and a few others it was back to the casino to get ready for the banquet that eveing. So, the results were:
James Farris won the Dtech AR donated by Mike Milli in collaberation with Magpul, DPMS, Olympic Arms, and Rock River. Genisis won the FOXPRO Scorpion donated by Mike Dillion and FOXPRO and the guys listed in the above picture won the Predator Sniper Styx donated by Brent Rueb and Predator Sniper Styx.
Edited by Yellowhammer (04/04/15 12:24 AM)
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#907523 - 02/21/08 09:11 AM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Yellowhammer]
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Thanks for the play by play!
Hopefully the sponsors stop by and see this,I would like to thank Foxpro for the Scorpion that I won.
Thanks to Dtech and Sniper sticks also.
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#907524 - 02/21/08 11:49 AM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: genesis]
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Thanks for bringing us all up todat Yellowhammer. I wish I had the oppertunity to attend and compete. It sounds like a great time.
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#907525 - 02/24/08 03:01 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Tarry]
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What was the part about weighing the guns? Was there a max weight that was allowed? The reason I ask is I am going to try and make next years hunt and shoot and my rifle weighs right around 14lbs. and is my calling rifle.
Never mind I found it.
Edited by MOJAVEJ (02/24/08 03:09 PM)
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#907526 - 02/25/08 10:17 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: MOJAVEJ]
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What was the part about weighing the guns? Was there a max weight that was allowed? The reason I ask is I am going to try and make next years hunt and shoot and my rifle weighs right around 14lbs. and is my calling rifle.
Never mind I found it.
What kind of gun do you shoot?
You'd be surprised how much wieght you can strip by removing gear off of your gun to get in the limit.
When I showed up I was over...after removing scope covers,sun shade, sling, and extra bullets I was in.
You can also shoot single shot out of an AR to make it in , also.
Hope to see you next year. Make plans now, you won't regret it!
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#907527 - 02/25/08 11:18 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: genesis]
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Yo, Texan,,
I mean Genesis forgetaboutit buddyboy ,
Do to matters dat I had no control over I was unable to partizipant in this years event
My AR was ready to neuter flyz out to 300 yards before US Air sabotaged me witch kept me out of the games this year.
know next year I will be there with the new upper all ready for ya kid, she will be coming together in the next couple weeks with help from a "little friend of mine" from the mid west and next year it will be ShowTime
I may even have stand beside ya to give you shad since you had to remove the sun shad off your scope
Your friend 9 OF SPADES 
Edited by GEORGE ACKLEY (02/25/08 11:20 PM)
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#907529 - 02/26/08 08:48 AM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
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Far left in the blue shirt is Michael McCasland. Yes he lives in Southern AZ.
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#907531 - 02/26/08 11:35 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: genesis]
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What was the part about weighing the guns? Was there a max weight that was allowed? The reason I ask is I am going to try and make next years hunt and shoot and my rifle weighs right around 14lbs. and is my calling rifle.
Never mind I found it.
What kind of gun do you shoot?
You'd be surprised how much wieght you can strip by removing gear off of your gun to get in the limit.
When I showed up I was over...after removing scope covers,sun shade, sling, and extra bullets I was in.
You can also shoot single shot out of an AR to make it in , also.
Hope to see you next year. Make plans now, you won't regret it!
I went and weighed my rifle fully loaded, sling, and sunshade and it was 13.30 lbs on a refrigerant scale. So I guess It'll make it. It is a 12FLV Savage in 223 with Fred Choate Varmint Stalker Stock and Nikon Buckmasters 6-18x40 with target dot and turrets.
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#907532 - 02/27/08 12:56 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: MOJAVEJ]
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Go for it, I believe that if your rifle fits into the rules laid out for the competition you should be able to use it in the match. If a configuration is un accceptable it should be excluded.
Here's a for instance:
What type of scope should be legal to use. We all agree that a 3x9 is legal, a 4.5x14 is legal, even a 4x18, but what about the big boys like the 6x24 or the 8x32 and then the true bad boy of the bunch a fixed 36x. Since a high magnification scope doesn't make a rifle any more accurate, it doesn't make the shooter better, should there be a limitation on what a legal scope should be .... especially if the rifle scope combination is perfectly legal in all other aspects.
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#907533 - 02/27/08 01:03 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Michael J. McCasland]
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A little birdie told me that the rules may be tweaked for next year to require that a scope has at least a 6x setting.
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#907534 - 02/27/08 01:25 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Yellowhammer]
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6x ..... I like that, it's a great compromise. It doesn't limit most people but allows a bit of magnification for those of us who are losing a bit in the eye sight department.
Setting the rules up can be difficult. Lets look at a tricked out Ar for instance. Even though an Ar is fully customized weighing the better part of 14 lbs with a forearm that measures close to the rules limit, it will always be counted as a proper predator hunting rifle. But take a bolt gun that is semi customized weghing the same or less with the same or smaller forearm demension and people will refuse to shoot against it. It doesn't make much sence, it's all a matter of perception. For instance I shot a little old single shot this year, everybody thought it was cool, but the rifle is far far from stock and will break eggs out to 300 + yards. My problem was that I couldn't see the egg well in the 3x9 scope. Not the scopes fault, my eyes weren't cooperating, I've got a very nice 6x24, the scope and the sunshades will likely stick out past the barrel of that little rifle, I cant wait for next years shoot, this year I think I'll bring enough ammunition to get the job done.
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#907535 - 02/27/08 01:47 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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We hunt predators ( Predator Masters )
So I think only Predator gun should be used.
what is a predator gun? a gun you kill predators with .
I don't care myself what gun you bring,, as long as its the gun you use calling...
If someone come out to the egg shoot with a fixed 36 X, you are just out to win a new gun because I don't know any callers carrying fixed 36 x
(Since a high magnification scope doesn't make a rifle any more accurate, it doesn't make the shooter better)
If it don't, why use it 
what is it a high X scope dose for you???
I would think this was a egg shoot for predator hunters, why bring a prairie dog or target guns to a predator shoot.
All you have to do is just shoot and post pictures with dead predators and the gun you like to shoot at the egg shoot next year , I don't care what gun the guys use, as long as its a gun they call with.
You have a 50 cal, 30'' pipe with a fixed 32x on it .bring it as long that it your calling gun.
Just my 2 cent 
And the dinner have to happen later at night
Edited by GEORGE ACKLEY (02/27/08 01:51 PM)
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#907536 - 02/27/08 02:11 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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First off it doesn't say that the shoot is a:
PREDATOR RIFLE EGGSHOOT
it's billed as an Egg Shoot and any rifle that fits into the rules should be allowed.
Simple, make the rules to exclude the PD rifle and that's harder than it seems at first glance. What's a PD rifle? One with a heavy barrel, lots of people hunt coyotes with a heavy barreled rifle? A rifle that has been modified, be honest is a fully tricked out AR a stock rifle? It's a rifle with a wide forearm, have you measured an AR's forearm lately. Weight, again lots of people hunt with heavy rifles, weigh an AR, my hunting partner Bills relatively stock Ruger 77 weighs more than 10 lbs. Scope size, we constantly have discussion on PM about guys that call with big AO scopes and are very successful with their setups. Caliber, coyotes are killed everyday with a 300 win. mag. The point is, how do you make rules that exclude one type of rifle and includes another .... it's harder than you might think. Simply stated, lay the rules down and people like me will follow them.
Lets face it, this is not a cheap shoot and the prizes aren't cheap. Who can really fault someone for shooting the best rifle they have that fits into the rules. I have a better rifle that does not fit the rules and I never even cosidered using it. By the way, the rifle I shot last year has been used to kill Coyotes, PD's, Rabbits and other varmints. I must admit that the rifle had a different scope on it at the time, it was a 6x24 that's on another rifle now. I know this will be hard to fully understand, but the 36x actually made shooting more difficult due to a very limited field of view.
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#907537 - 02/27/08 02:52 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: Michael J. McCasland]
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One of the reasons it took a while to have a competition of any kind at the annual hunt is that this is supposed to be fun. Start making long lists of rules to add to long lists of rules because someone is trying to gain an advantage even though they are following the letter of the law and the event will disappear. The spirit of the shoot is as George Ackley said. Use a rifle that you would normally use for day to day calling. Not something that is set up to be within 1 gram of the legal weight or 1 cm of a legal measurement, or one that you have "killed" a coyote with just to say "Yep I killed coyotes with that gun." Remember we are trying to encourage participation in these events, not discourage it. When it becomes more policing than enjoyment, it won't be around. Members just won't bother entering. Have some fun with the thing.
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#907539 - 02/27/08 03:33 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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I don't care myself what gun you bring,, as long as its the gun you use calling...
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All you have to do is just shoot and post pictures with dead predators and the gun you like to shoot at the egg shoot next year , I don't care what gun the guys use, as long as its a gun they call with.
You have a 50 cal, 30'' pipe with a fixed 32x on it .bring it as long that it your calling gun.
I would feel comfortable shooting next or against any calling gun.
We are all from different part of the country and hunt different terrain ,
many of us use different guns and scopes to suit are calling area .
My point is I don't care what you use at the egg shoot as long as it's your calling gun.
The gun a I took to shoot is a Modal 1 sales kit gun with a 16'' sporter barrel AR 15 in 223 with collapsible stock, Witch I run 2 scopes on 1 fixed power red dot side scope and 1 top scope that's 16 x 18 x 40.
It's my every day calling gun 95% of the time.
To me the shoot was to show off my calling gun and how good I am with it.
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#907540 - 02/27/08 04:20 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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While eating lunch I was thinking about the posts I made this morning. While I don't pull back on a single thing I wrote let me follow this up with this. I'm not whining about not winning, I broke an egg and that was what I set as a goal for myself. The guys that won deserved their wins, it was good to have the privilege to be able to watch them. This is a discussion about rules and how to narrow them down to the point where everybody feels that everybody is playing fair. I feel good about the requirement for a scope that can go as low as 6x. But after thinking about it there are still people that call with a fixed 10x scope, how can we make it fair for that guy .... I don't know the answer to that.
I also feel a need to add this. Last year when Leon set this game up he did fairly extensive testing with his rifles. He and his son shot a variety of them a H&R single shot, stock bolt guns and an incredibly accurate 40x. He found that with a 3 shot + extras limit ALL of his rifles were able to break eggs out to 400 yards. In the end it all came down to the shooter, not the equipment. Basically everybody has the equipment to win this game. I honestly believe that my win last year was probably 60% luck, 40% skill.
There has been much talk about the spirit of this match being this or that. While the soft and fuzzy edges of the word spirit may be a nice warm place to dance the hard edge of ANY competition lay in the way the rules are setup. We can't gig a guy for bringing the best equipment he has as long as that equipment falls within the rules. Honestly this whole discussion makes me feel like crap for comming to the match last year slapping down $80 for 5 shots, handicapping myself by 1 round and using a small calibe (223AI), with the desire to follow the rules and actually win. I almost never win a thing, it was a nice feeling, for about 30 seconds, right now I wish I'd given the darned gun back.
Lets face it, if your sitting at home and see a coyote out there dancing around at 500 yards, are you going to grab the 223 sighted in for 200 yards or are you going to grab the best shootin' 500 yard gun you've got?
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#907541 - 02/27/08 08:51 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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hey this is mitch thanks for all the calls and me and my grandpa deno are looking forward for next year so be ready
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#907542 - 02/27/08 09:04 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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It is all about the fun.
Thats the only reason I entered up.
Let me tell you guys...anyone can WIN this shoot!
There are some shooters in the bunch, but you'd be surprised at how shooting sticks level the field in a hurry.
It's worth the time and money to try it on.
You will thoroughly enjoy yourself.
Did I say it's all about the fun????
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#907544 - 02/28/08 07:11 AM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: MOJAVEJ]
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If it where up to me I would have no objection to you using that gun..
It's your calling gun and that's what you should bring, you calling gun.
it be ok with me if the rules stated bring any gun you like, just bring photos to prove that its used for calling.
like the man said this is for fun. and I think its a good chance to see every body's calling setups in action.
I bet you be surprised just how many different platforms and configurations of guns you would see and also hear the reason why they are like they are.
Edited by GEORGE ACKLEY (02/28/08 07:14 AM)
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#907545 - 02/28/08 02:01 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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Since I lost the gun to Michael in the 2007 egg shoot I think I should at least put my in my 2 cents. My main concern tith the 2007 Egg Shoot was the welded stainless
steel non pivoting " sticks " that were stompt into the ground 8" to 10" by Michael. This to me was equivalent to shooting off a fence post.
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#907546 - 02/28/08 02:19 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: GEORGE ACKLEY]
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If it where up to me I would have no objection to you using that gun..
It's your calling gun and that's what you should bring, you calling gun.
it be ok with me if the rules stated bring any gun you like, just bring photos to prove that its used for calling.
like the man said this is for fun. and I think its a good chance to see every body's calling setups in action.
I bet you be surprised just how many different platforms and configurations of guns you would see and also hear the reason why they are like they are.
Mine is the way it is because I got so used to the pistol grip of the M16 after 4 yrs in the Corps. that I bought the stock for that reason and here in Kali I can't have a traditional AR without the gadgets to make it legal. But I will be moving back to KS this summer and the AR is the first thing on the agenda. Man it's amazing how that one question opened up a healthy debate but healthy debates are good.
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#907547 - 02/28/08 02:35 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
[Re: jafarris]
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In reference to last years (2007) shoot
First off I asked for a ruling on the sticks before I even used them and they were deemed acceptable. There was no requirement for the sticks to actually pivot. The darned things were to short from the beginning, I've tested my normal shooting sticks and shooting would have been easier if I'd just used them. The only reason I used them in the first place was because my hunting partner made them and they were the first things I grabbed when setting up. If you had said a single word to me about them I would have gladly used my other sticks.
Second - at the two hundred yard mark we were on a hard road and we couldn't "stomp them in the ground".
Shooting off the road
At the three hundred yard mark I stabbed them into the ground to show how soft the ground was and to make a joke, but pulled them out for the actual shoot, they would have been far to short to shoot from if they were stuck in the ground at all. During the shoot off I did not "stab" them into the ground at all, ever!
During the shoot off (Notice the sticks are leaning forward, the sling is stabilizing the front and the legs were on top of the ground):
If they stuck, and I don't remember if they did or not, it was from shooting off soft ground with the weight of the gun pressing down.
I noticed that in this years shoot (2008) most of the sticks being used were stuck into the ground, essentially supporting themselves.
Notice the sticks in front of me, notice I have a pair of sticks in my hand, I haven't touched the sticks at all. Notice the guy sitting next to me, his sticks are stuck in the ground. I was commenting at the time of that picture that the sticks were standing all by themselves and remembering the incorrect whining I heard lat year I pulled the sticks and used my own (edit: "my own" being a set of donated sticks I picked up before going to the line to shoot) making sure no one could accuse me of "stomping" them down. Yes, I remember the whining from last year.
My loss this year had nothing to do with the sticks, they were comfortable to use and very steady. I lost because my eyes weren't focusing well that day, I simply lost like others did, I'm not about to point to my equipment or anybody else’s.
Be-the-way, (I'm sincere about this) that was a pretty nice rifle you were shooting. Beautiful in fact. I couldn't help but admire it both last year and this year. Was that a 223 or something bigger? Nice scope to.
Edited by Michael J. McCasland (02/28/08 09:51 PM)
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#907548 - 02/28/08 05:02 PM
Re: 2008 Dtech Egg Shoot
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I hope we don't go much farther down this road. The sticks we used this year could be used with or without the 6 inch extensions. That is why one seems so much higher than the other. The extensions worked for those sitting on a stool and without if sitting on the ground. I sat on the ground, but think I will sit on a stool next time, using a rest much like genisis was using. My crosshairs were waving all over the place. I just tried to shoot when they passed by. 
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#907549 - 02/28/08 05:25 PM
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I don't think this is about the relative length of the shooting sticks. The sticks were a good idea and we should do the same next year, also most of what I've heard about the rule changes make perfect sence. Next year will see some changes and the shoot should be even more enjoyable than it was this year.
But I want people to know that this isn't just a fun shoot for me. It cost far to much and the prizes are far to nice to consider it to be a shoot just for fun. Lay out the rules as are needed and I will come with the best equipement I own that still fits the rules with the intention of winning. That seems only fair, and a good rule for anybody comming to any type of competitive shooting expereince. ........ besides as Genesis already said, anybody can win this match.
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#907550 - 02/28/08 08:16 PM
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Lets shoot shotguns next year.
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#907551 - 02/28/08 09:22 PM
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jafarris,
You have mail.
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Deleted, BY George
Edited by GEORGE ACKLEY (02/28/08 09:26 PM)
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#907553 - 03/01/08 10:56 PM
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#907555 - 03/07/08 01:00 PM
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jafarris,
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#907556 - 03/18/08 10:45 PM
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Since I lost the gun to Michael in the 2007 egg shoot I think I should at least put my in my 2 cents. My main concern tith the 2007 Egg Shoot was the welded stainless
steel non pivoting " sticks " that were stompt into the ground 8" to 10" by Michael. This to me was equivalent to shooting off a fence post.
WWWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA let's just drop this and be men, MJM shot the best last year plain and simple!!!!
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#907557 - 03/19/08 12:16 PM
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That's right, the shoot is a lot of fun and should be viewed at exactly that. With the changes this year and the ability to purchase extra shots, everybody has a chance to win.
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#907558 - 03/19/08 05:28 PM
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All participants followed the rules in both egg shoots. MJM won the first egg shoot and JA Farris came in second while abiding by the rules that had been set forth.
JAFarris won the second egg shoot and Genesis came in second while abiding by the rules that had been set forth.
Nuff Said.
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#907560 - 03/19/08 11:21 PM
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#907561 - 03/20/08 03:47 AM
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OK... fourth! LOL Well, I was the first one that actually hit an egg!!!! I think I might have been the first one OUT at 300yds, too. My point being that the egg shoot is a skills/fun activity and not really about winning a prize! Thanks for keeping me honest Sean!!!  
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This is the rifle that I was talking about when I asked the question.
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