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#615979 - 09/11/07 05:05 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: john1951]
MtnHermit Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 4
Loc: Arizona
Dittos on the thank-you BroncoGlenn. As someone who is just now jumping up to a Foxpro, this information derived from your experience has undoubtedly saved me quite a bit on money that I can put in the gas tank instead. Thanks again,

MtnHermit

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#615980 - 11/20/07 02:29 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: MtnHermit]
coyote control Offline
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Registered: 05/20/02
Posts: 1438
Loc: Mt. Vernon, Washington
BroncoGlenn,
That was a very informational article!
After reading it a couple of times and doing a little bit of searching, I just ordered a charger and batteries.

Got everything from Thomas Distributing:
MAHA MH-C801D Charger
Powerx 2700mAH batteries - 8 pack.

Should be good to go for the "NEW" FX3 I just got last week.
(a mistake in labeling at a local retailer netted me a savings of $118 - out the door was $399).

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#615981 - 12/11/07 09:08 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: coyote control]
KyoteBuster Offline
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Registered: 12/03/06
Posts: 212
Loc: LowGap,NC
What about the energizer recharagable battires are they good?
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#615982 - 12/30/07 05:50 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: KyoteBuster]
jumprightinit Offline
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Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 7031
Loc: Ione, Washistan
Just wondering about the difference in performance and life span between NIMH and NI-CD. Could you use the same charger for both types?
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#615983 - 12/30/07 07:07 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: jumprightinit]
coyote control Offline
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Registered: 05/20/02
Posts: 1438
Loc: Mt. Vernon, Washington
The NiMh batteries will go longer for you than the Ni-Cd. The MAHA MH-C801D Charger that I mention above will not charge Ni-Cd's.

Correction:
This charger will charge the Ni-Cd's.


Edited by coyote control (12/30/07 07:11 PM)

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#615984 - 01/05/08 11:11 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: coyote control]
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 3583
Loc: Henderson, Nevada
Biggest thing with NiCd batteries is they have a lower self discharge rate than standard NiMH batteries. They can also be more tolerant of abuse and deep/rapid discharging such as when used in power tools.
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#615985 - 01/05/08 11:53 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: BroncoGlenn]
Cariboudreamer Offline
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Registered: 11/26/05
Posts: 245
Loc: Huntsville,Ohio Logan county
I'm wondering the same thing here.I put my batteries on the charger last night before heading out his morning for my first time with my xr6 caller today,all pump and ready to see what my new caller will call in today.
Well went to first setup and called for a while then hit mute,Waited 15 min and hit caller again called for about 1 min then it all sudden shut off.Tried to send info again with no repsonse from caller Hmmmmmmmmmm.Finally got up and found my battery light was on,Dang it dead batteries.

"energizer recharagable battires are they good"

These are the batteries in using.It was also the first time using the batteries Should i recharge and will they last longer than a hour of calling or should i look at different batteries???
Any info will help out.Was kinda upset that i had to call it quites early due to dead batteries.
I also notice the caller had a charger spot to plug into to recharge,Can i use any recharger(car) or do i have to use a fox pro recharger and batteries??
Thanks for the help guiys.

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#615986 - 01/07/08 12:44 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: Cariboudreamer]
coyote control Offline
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Registered: 05/20/02
Posts: 1438
Loc: Mt. Vernon, Washington
Normally it takes 2 - 3 charges to get the batteries up to "max". But the ones you got should of went lots longer than 1 hr.

What you will probably need down the road is, a good "battery checker". You could have Just one battery that is weak (not taking a charge good or not holding a charge good) and that one battery could draw the rest of them down real fast.

I bought a battery checker here a couple weeks ago and after checking the pack of 8 Powerex 2700 mAmp batteries, I found one that draws down quicker than the other 7. This one battery is the last one to get fully charged also.

So You might want to check into a battery checker.

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#615987 - 01/07/08 10:06 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: coyote control]
Cariboudreamer Offline
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Registered: 11/26/05
Posts: 245
Loc: Huntsville,Ohio Logan county
Thanks i will check them out on the battery checker never gave that much thought.
Thans again for the help.

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#615988 - 01/10/08 01:22 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: Cariboudreamer]
kelbro Offline
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Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 1145
Loc: AZ
We design and manufacture battery chargers. I have done extensive testing on Li-Ion and NiMH batteries and their charge capacities. I will give you a couple of tips:

1. Energizer rechargeable NiMH batteries - junk! don't waste your hard-earned money. Duracell are a little better. Good batteries are not cheap, cheap batteries are not good.

2. Cheap $20 chargers will almost never charge your batteries over 2000mAh capacity, even if they have 2500mAh batteries included in the package. We have tested most of the currently offered general retail chargers and this is the standard. It has to do with the charging ICs that they use to operate these circuits.

If you buy one of those low-dollar chargers (not bad by the way), just buy the 2000mAh batteries. WalMart has a good one that has Energizer's brand on it. Microprocessor controlled and all 4 slots charge independently. Thermal protection and overcharge protection are included.

3. Don't count on over 40-50 complete charge/discharge cycles with any of the AA NiMH batteries that you can buy at the grocery store or X-Mart.

4. Don't run them completely down, let them set and then charge them up the night before a hunt and expect them to hold a good charge. They need a couple of cycles to get the chemical reactions going. Try to get in the habit of charging them when you get through using them and then put them on the charger for an hour or two each month while you are not using them.

5. Occasionally you can find the Lithium batteries in bulk for a good price. These work well for the money and great to have as backups since they have long shelf lives. Energizer's lithium batteries are very good.
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#615989 - 01/12/08 07:56 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: coyote control]
Kenny_Borel Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 86
Loc: Land O' Da Swamp People
Where is a good source for a battery checker???
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#615990 - 01/12/08 08:13 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: Kenny_Borel]
possumal Offline
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Registered: 01/13/06
Posts: 4951
Loc: Nicholasville, Ky.
Batteries Plus.
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#615991 - 01/12/08 08:29 PM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: possumal]
Kenny_Borel Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 86
Loc: Land O' Da Swamp People
Those only say they check voltage. I can do that with my voltmeter. Where can I find one that checks mah charge???
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#615992 - 01/16/08 02:11 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: Kenny_Borel]
coyote control Offline
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Registered: 05/20/02
Posts: 1438
Loc: Mt. Vernon, Washington
This is the one I picked up. It does check rechargeable battery's.
Battery checker.

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#615993 - 01/24/08 07:00 AM Re: NiMH Batteries and Chargers--A Primer [Re: coyote control]
Talisman Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/24/04
Posts: 138
Loc: Kansas City

Awsome thread!

BTW - there is a new MAHA charger MH-C800S, it's the same as teh C801D but is a 2 hour charger that costs about 10-15 bucks less.

Features
8 battery slots
Charges all batt's seperately
Has a conditioning cycle
Fast charge or soft charge button
LCD pannel that tells you about each battery

Talisman

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