3 elected Democratic representatives lead protestors in calls for gun reform interrupt house business

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Originally Posted By: Nashville TennesseanWith a bullhorn, Rep. Justin Jones, D-Nashville, Rep. Justin Pearson, D-Memphis, and Rep. Gloria Johnson, D-Knoxville, led protestors in the galleries in several chants calling for gun reform.

What will happen next?

Republican leadership is considering expelling the three members for their actions on March 30. Formal resolutions to expel were filed Monday, triggering a process which will allow Johnson, Jones, and Pearson to defend their actions.

On Monday morning, Johnson and Jones were formally stripped of their committee assignments. Pearson, who was just sworn in last week, had not yet been assigned any committees.

3 elected Democratic representatives ...business.

 
I don't think expelling them or stripping them of their assignments is correct.

You don't get to pick and choose convenient parts of the Constitution to support. If you are a supporter of 2A then you should be supportive of 1A. They have the right to protest. Like it or not. When folks cherry pick you're falling into their game.

They want to disregard the 2A because they are afraid of guns and the boogey man. They'd rather hide inside, call 911 then criticize those who protect them.

But to disregard their right to voice their opinions are no better.

Better to confront them and show them the error of their ways than to silence them.
 
SnowmanMo, you should read the account of the events pertaining to the actions of these three people. Very similar to Jan. 6 at the Capitol, according to The Tennessean news.
Congress has a code of conduct and there are consequences when you go astray. They have not been silenced, they are paying the consequences for inappropriate behavior. It appears their conduct was so flagrant as to warrant being expelled. They have been confronted and shown the error of their ways.
 
I did read the accounts of what transpired. While they were in violation of the senate rules I don't think it rises to the level where you ignore the fact that they were voted into office by their constituents. They should have been removed from the chamber so that business could continue.

I agree that they were not silenced and it is good that the senate let them speak.

I think you set a dangerous precedent removing people who have differing views. We don't like it when the Libs have done it to Conservatives, so why be ok with it when the roles reverse? Stand the moral high ground, they'll take care of themselves.
 
What about the vast majority of Tennessee residents whose representation was being interfered with? There HAS to be consequences for actions that break rules/laws or the lawless win. These 3 were looking for attention and sometimes there can and should be repercussions.
 
I don't think it's a stick that should be swung lightly. Our country is falling victim to tribalism where it's all one way or the other. There has to be middle ground.

For them to use something that has only been used a handful of times since the civil war for them protesting is extreme.

Politicians pander with stunts all the time. It's done by both sides.

Politicians do not give up their Constitutional rights just because they take office.

If the protest was so egregious then the balcony should have been cleared right from the start. But they didn't clear it. Then, in between bills, the 3 lawmakers went to the well with their bullhorn. The session was adjourned for about an hour while they did clear the gallery.

Should that rise to the level of expulsion?

Should there be repercussions, yes, but they should fit the crime. A single protest resulting in expulsion, that's a bit much.
 
They also swear an oath to UPHOLD the constitution, and there is NO consequence when they OUTRIGHT try to legislate adversely. All our "problems" would resolve themselves if ANY elected or sworn public servant could be immediately removed for violating the Bill of Rights of any citizen directly or legislatively.
 
It bothers me that they conveniently pick and chose which parts of the Constitution they uphold.

I think the Constitution is one of the finest documents ever written.

They seem to forget that they work for the people and not the other way. They all act like they are the ruling class.
 
I equate the actions of using the bullhorn to get attention to that of a spoiled 3 year old child. If they get loud, lay on the floor and kick their feet, they will get what they want. Discipline has to start somewhere and I am sure each new member had a period of orientation concerning conduct while in session. People have been told too often and too long that, "it's not their fault". That is wrong and if their mouth or deeds get them in trouble, then so be it. Forewarned is forearmed!
 
2 Democrats Expelled From Tennessee House by GOP Legislature, 3rd Spared by 1 Vote

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Rep. Justin Jones, D-Nashville, delivers remarks on the floor of the House chamber Thursday, April 6, 2023, in Nashville, Tenn. Tennessee Republicans are seeking to oust Jones and two other House Democrats for their role in a demonstration calling for gun control following the Nashville school shooting.(AP Photo/George Walker IV)

By Chase Smith
April 6, 2023Updated: April 7, 2023

After several hours of debate, two Tennessee Democrats were expelled from the Tennessee General Assembly by the Republican supermajority-controlled House of Representatives on Thursday.

The third state representative facing expulsion held her seat by a margin of only one vote on a historic day in the Tennessee legislature. The close vote came as a shock, as eight Republican lawmakers broke ranks to vote against the expulsion of Rep. Gloria Johnson of Knox County.

Resolutions to expel the members were introduced on April 3 after the lawmakers led protesters with a bullhorn in chants calling for tighter restrictions on gun rights while on the House floor. This came after the deadly Covenant School shooting in Nashville the week before.

The move to expel members is particularly rare in Tennessee, where only two other members have been expelled from the chamber since the Civil War. Those votes, however, were largely bipartisan, in stark contrast to the expulsion of two Democrats on party lines.

A Historic Day Unfolds

The first representative to lose his seat was Rep. Justin Jones of Nashville. Later in the evening, Rep. Justin Pearson of Memphis lost his seat in the body. Both removal votes were along party lines, with all of the chamber’s Democrat members voting against expulsion.

The third Democrat who faced expulsion retained her seat with 65 of the necessary 66 votes to expel her.

Hundreds of protestors spent upwards of ten hours on the Capitol grounds in Nashville and just outside the House chamber—the rowdy crowd could be heard chanting throughout the day.

The loudest roar from the crowd came at the end of the evening, just before 7:00 p.m. local time, following the expulsion of Pearson, who gave a fiery final speech promising to “not quit.”

Both expelled members can be reappointed to their seats by officials in their respective counties, which in Nashville and Memphis are Democrat strongholds in an otherwise red state. They cannot be expelled again for the same offenses, members said during debate Thursday.

Jones Expelled

The debate before the vote to expel Jones lasted many hours as each of the three representatives faced separate hearings on April 6. Representatives from each side of the aisle spoke passionately, shouted, yelled, and expressed emotion about the historic move to remove the members.

Jones, in his closing remarks, urged his colleagues to vote against his expulsion by telling them “the world is watching.”

“When I walked up to this well on last Thursday, I was thinking about the thousands of students who were outside demanding that we do something. In fact, many of their signs said ‘do something,’” Jones said in his closing plea. “That was their only ask of us is to respond to their grief, to respond to a traumatized community. But in response to that, the first action of this body is to expel members for calling for common sense gun legislation.”

Jones went on to claim that his Republican colleagues were committing an “assault on democracy” and that this day will “be a dark day for Tennessee because it will signal to the nation that there is no democracy in Tennessee.”
Pearson Expelled

Pearson gave an intense speech surrounded by his Democratic colleagues, speaking of a spirit of not giving up.

“My people have yet to quit,” he said. “They were witnesses, as you have been witnesses, to what has been happening in the anti-democratic state of Tennessee.”

He added that while it may seem like “the NRA and gun lobbyists might win,” he had good news—that “Sunday always comes; resurrection is a promise, and it is a prophecy that came out of the cotton fields, the lynching tree, and still lives in each and every one of us in order to make the state of Tennessee the place that it ought to be.”

“I’ve still got hope because I know we are still here, and we will never quit,” he said to raucous applause from the gallery.

He was also removed in a party-line vote and officially declared expelled from the chamber by House Speaker Cameron Sexton.
Johnson Spared

Seven Republicans crossed party lines to vote against the expulsion of Johnson, who has been a member representing Knox County in East Tennessee since 2018.

“Our hearts compelled us to come [to the well] to call for action,” Johnson said in her closing remarks before the vote. “We need to let the voices of [my 70,000 constituents] be heard.”

The two seats left by Jones and Pearson are now vacant and will need to be filled, likely by themselves, as officials in Memphis and Nashville have already voiced support for reappointing them to the temporarily-vacant seats.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/democrat-e...RzUiSiLVnQ9T2mU
 
So, both were seated by vote of the people, but can be re-appointed by county officials. Then, they can not be expelled again for the same offense. So what message has been sent to any and all who condone the behavior that caused expulsion in the first place? There is no "teeth" in that type of action, so why bother?
 
The expulsion exposed their actions/behavior to the constituents of their district. Often extreme anti-social norms behavior and anti constitutional agendas are grossed over by media(and campaign information). Voters need to know the real beliefs of elected officials(just as we should know the social values of all public paid employees). This will now become part of the next election, with no ability to deny their actions.
 
Trouble is the left and the media will always/has portray(ed) the expulsion (as all other problematic issues) as racist, as they always do when the facts are against them, thus deflecting their constituents attention to the matter.

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