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#3319051 - 03/24/23 10:19 AM Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong.
Wiscoboy Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/28/23
Posts: 12
Loc: Wi
So this morning I FINALLY called in a coyote. No one was more shocked than me. Were talking 100+ stands, no called predators.

Anyway, was calling on some public on top of a open area with fingers. Had a very slight NE wind, like 2-3 mph. I walked in about 1/4 mile and wanted to go further but it was getting light quicker than I expected. I set up and called with a cross wind, basically the coyote did exactly what I setup for, came in at my 10 o'clock and started circling toward my roughneck call. He was a little sneaky, would take a few trots and stop. Take a few trots and stop. I switched from a bird sound on the caller to a rat which is my coaxer default sound. He continued in , and then I remembered I should be lip squeaking. I stopped the caller and did that and he got hinky and came a little closer but buggered out right away. I was down below the caller and off to the side about 35-40 yards. I shot at him 2x when he turned to leave but missed. Probably got him to about 75 yards. Being a lefty I did have to move the sticks a little and maybe he noticed that too idk. But, he did what I pictured in my head when I setup, so I'm happy with that, a lot.

Should I have just left the bird sound on? Should I have left the rat coaxer sound on? Or should I have lip squeaked or not lip squeaked? Just trying to learn from my mistakes because I don't get opportunities often. I had the caller on about 12 for volume due to very little wind, and the coaxer was like 7.

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#3319055 - 03/24/23 10:57 AM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
Coyotejunki Offline
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Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 5303
Loc: MO
1. IMO, if they are coming into the call, don't change anything, let them come in. If they are getting too close you can bark, yell hey, or other sound to try and stop them. Then Don't Miss! Laff'n

The more you call in and can read them, Ears up, alerted, hard charging in, looking back (maybe another behind it) you can make judgement calls. I have had them coming in, then change sounds and seen them turn and run away. You can over call them. Lots of people debate whether to let the caller run constant or intermittent also.

Be mindful of your down wind, often if they get a snootful of you or your partner, they will leave.

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#3319057 - 03/24/23 11:10 AM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
DesertRam Offline
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Registered: 04/26/01
Posts: 9508
Loc: Las Cruces, NM USA
I would have left the original sound play. Don't change unless the coyote does.

There was no reason to lip squeak. All that did was move his attention from the e caller to you.

In short, if we was coming, let him come. Take the first high percentage shot he gives.
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#3319068 - 03/24/23 12:02 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
SnowmanMo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 4381
Loc: Phoenix, Az
I agree with Junki and Ram...let'em keep coming, they are already interested in the call.

If they are pausing like you said I might drop the volume. Sometimes that can get them to commit.

But great job with the set up. Sounds like you've learned a lot and were able to use those lessons to a great effect.

Also sounds like because you were 0-100 you might have got just a bit jumpy. We used to say that our first stand was a warm up but more often than not we make contact on our first stands. So you have to be as diligent on stand 1 as any other stands.

But keep it up, you're dialing in.
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#3319083 - 03/24/23 12:39 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
derbyacresbob Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 4953
Loc: Kern County, CA
We never lip squak at coyotes because at least 50% of the coyotes will panic when they here a lip squeak comming from a different direction than the sound you are playing on your e-caller.

If we don't have a shotgun on stand we mute the sound on our e-caller once the coyote gets in good rifle range to get it to stop. Muting the sound works better for us and even if they don't stop when the sound is muted they don't panic and run off as quickly as they do when they hear a lip squeak.
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#3319085 - 03/24/23 12:44 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
jmeddy Online
Die Hard Member

Registered: 02/02/13
Posts: 902
Loc: SW PA
Agree with above. If coming don’t change except maybe lower the volume

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#3319093 - 03/24/23 01:39 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
AWS Online
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Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 6645
Loc: NM
Congratulations on #1 called. Now just a little fine tuning. Listen to the advice these guys have given it is all golden.
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#3319095 - 03/24/23 01:47 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 16120
Loc: Michigan
I agree with the guys above.

Congrats on sticking with it !

You finally got one in ,now keep calm and kill the next one. thumbup1


Edited by Tim Neitzke (03/24/23 01:49 PM)
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#3319105 - 03/24/23 02:24 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
GC Online
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17179
Loc: Missouri
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let them come.
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#3319106 - 03/24/23 02:29 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
lockrotor Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 2095
Loc: West Central WI
I also agree with what you are being told. I might turn the sound down but never totally off. And yes when in range for you thats comfortable. If the coyote is 100-150yds, bark to stop them and squeeze. You'll get one down. Getting to seeing your first one come in, must of got your blood a pumping. Keep at it.

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#3319111 - 03/24/23 03:16 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
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PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17179
Loc: Missouri
I'll stop the sound if/when I want to stop the coyote. But I don't change anything as long as the coyote is coming.
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#3319121 - 03/24/23 04:28 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
K-22hornet. Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 1745
Loc: Colorado
Congratulations on the first of, hopefully, many, many more!
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#3319139 - 03/24/23 07:08 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
YoteslayerWA Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/11/14
Posts: 540
Loc: Spokane WA
First off, pat yourself on the back. Calling in a coyote this late in the season on public ground is an accomplishment whether you put him on the ground or not. Your persistence is admirable and something that can't be taught. Keep at them and continue to learn and you will be killing them left and right.

As far as your scenario goes, be patient next time. Read the coyote and don't rush a shot or try to do too much. If they are coming, just let them do so. If they turn to leave do not rush your shot. 95% of the time they will stop and give you a shot. there is no need to take a running shot or rush a shot unless they have already kicked it into 5th gear. keep at them and we will look forward to hearing about your first kill.
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#3319141 - 03/24/23 07:23 PM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: YoteslayerWA]
duck Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 58
Loc: indiana
the only other thing would be getting set up the way you think they are coming in . i shoot left handed too ill set up a little left of where i think they will come from you can go a little right easyer than you can left.

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#3319160 - 03/25/23 01:36 AM Re: Called in first coyote, but it went south. Critique what I did wrong. [Re: Wiscoboy]
desert dave Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 02/02/11
Posts: 642
Loc: California
Congrats on the first called coyote. Grind until you find! Keep at it and you will put some fur down.

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