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#3317992 - 03/17/23 09:45 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: Coyotejunki]
Kino M Offline
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Registered: 10/16/04
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Originally Posted By: Coyotejunki
OK, I had to try it in my AR15, Decided to use Varget and Benchmark. I like Varget the best of these groups.

Lawyer repellent!

Some of these are hot loads, do not shoot them in your rifle, go minimum book loads and work up.

Was a little chilly and breezy today, but they worked. Those Varget loads are some of my best groups with an AR15.




No denying that results, very solid hunting accuracy performance!

I'm actually running Benchmark for my loads, super accurate, faster than Varget and can be easily ran through my Redding BR30 powder throw. I love Varget but it and the rest of bigger extruded powders suck trying to use a powder throw.
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#3318017 - 03/17/23 10:45 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: Kino M]
Coyotejunki Offline
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I use Benchmark and IMR 8208 xbr a lot
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#3318084 - 03/18/23 09:05 AM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: Coyotejunki]
Antgrit Offline
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Registered: 02/27/23
Posts: 7
Loc: USA
8208 has been good to me.

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#3318091 - 03/18/23 09:41 AM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: Coyotejunki]
Tf282 Offline
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Registered: 09/04/21
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Loc: So. Idaho
Originally Posted By: Coyotejunki
OK, I had to try it in my AR15, Decided to use Varget and Benchmark. I like Varget the best of these groups.

Lawyer repellent!

Some of these are hot loads, do not shoot them in your rifle, go minimum book loads and work up.

Was a little chilly and breezy today, but they worked. Those Varget loads are some of my best groups with an AR15.



What kind of velocity were you getting out of that 26.5 grn varget group?
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#3318098 - 03/18/23 10:21 AM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Kino M Offline
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Registered: 10/16/04
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Wow! I just saw that, I wouldn't have thought you could get 26.5 grains of Varget in a 223 case!

My load is 23.8gr of Benchmark, new Starline 556 brass, it runs 3110 in an 18" 1/7tw WOA barrel.
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#3318112 - 03/18/23 11:25 AM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Terry Lightle Offline
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Registered: 01/13/19
Posts: 572
Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
Shoot 26 grains of Varget in my 223 with Lapua brass,26.5 the groups opened up a little so dropped back to 26 grains and settled there

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#3318116 - 03/18/23 11:41 AM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Coyotejunki Offline
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I haven't checked velocity yet, just shot for groups this time. 26.5 grs just about fills the case. Pretty sure Varget gets less pressure than Benchmark or imr 8208, close in practical spd, guessing, looking at hodgdons website.



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#3318162 - 03/18/23 02:00 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Terry Lightle Offline
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Registered: 01/13/19
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Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
My 20 inch barrel is going at 2960 with my Varget load,it is a Tikka and we all know Tikka barrels are slow.

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#3318170 - 03/18/23 02:30 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Coyotejunki Offline
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Guess I am going to run a few over the chrono
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#3318306 - 03/19/23 01:49 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: Coyotejunki]
jnorman Offline
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Registered: 02/16/11
Posts: 39
Loc: western minn
N-133 and 53 v-max's are a match made in heaven.

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#3318309 - 03/19/23 02:07 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
skinney Offline
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Registered: 12/21/09
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Loc: South Dakota
Originally Posted By: jpr423
Ive built a new rig for Coyotes and Cats, a 22-250 with an 18 1-12 twist. Ive shot both the 55 grain and 50 grain factory V Maxes with good luck but I see more and more about how everyone prefers the 53 grain, mainly due to the BC I believe?

For Coyotes and Cats inside 400, is it worth it?


We've also had good luck with the 50's. I've used the 55's and the 60's as well.

I did purchase a bunch of 53's to test out, and on one of these windy days I'm going to try and load up 10 of each, with the same Rifle and see what the full value wind drift is at 400, as well as the drop between them. While trying to keep the same charge of powder for all of the loads.
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#3318346 - 03/19/23 06:56 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
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Registered: 12/18/10
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I shoot the 50's a lot although I have used both the 55's and 60's. Just a point of clarification, someone mentioned in an earlier post that the 50's were flat based. That is not correct. The 55's and 60's are, but the 50's are boattail.
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#3318349 - 03/19/23 07:29 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
Rock Knocker Offline
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Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3449
Loc: Buffalo, MN
I'm not a vmax fan, I wont hunt with them anymore, vmaxs on a less than ideal angle have lead to lots of runners and pelt damage. I've seen angled coyote shoulders deflect 53vmax away from vitals at 30 yards.

65 Sierra Game King, any SGK, are a far superior hunting bullet unless you're trying to explode small rodents, SGK will be reliable in all real world hunting scenarios and save more fur. I've had vmax splash on entrance, tear hole on exits, God-knows-what and perfect pinhole entrance no exit DRT. Every range, angle and shot placement is going to affect terminal performance, a good hunting bullet penetrates everytime and does the same thing everytime.

Recently I HBN lubed 53gr TSX and I've got them screaming fast and accurate with a ridiculous charge of H322, plus they will penetrate 10inches of wet oak, no splashing.

I swear MN coyotes are just big boned.

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#3318362 - 03/19/23 09:31 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: jpr423]
borkon Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Posts: 4255
Loc: minnesota
I've said for Years. People buy VMax bullets because they are the cheapest and tend to be accurate.

For killing coyotes, there are WAY BETTER choices.
Coyotes aint prairie dogs.

Let's ask the guys that kill coyotes for a living (unsponsered) if they use them.
Or the guys that (used too love this) guys that hunt tournaments where decent $$ was involved.

Simply put, there are just so many better bullets.
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#3318363 - 03/19/23 09:47 PM Re: 22 Cal V Max Bullets [Re: DoubleUp]
Kino M Offline
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Registered: 10/16/04
Posts: 1789
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: DoubleUp
I shoot the 50's a lot although I have used both the 55's and 60's. Just a point of clarification, someone mentioned in an earlier post that the 50's were flat based. That is not correct. The 55's and 60's are, but the 50's are boattail.



Yeah my mistake, its been so long since I've loaded a 50 I forgot! I was thinking they both was, 50 and 55. I started with 50s running them hard in a 26" 22-250 and it was honestly the worst performing bullet I've ever ran causing some tremendous splash and runners. I switched to 55s and remembered the pinched fingers loading! They did perform better than the 50s IMO. Any flatbase will bite you if you get loading to fast!

When the 53s came out I tried them and have never once felt like I needed to change, they've been great.
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