To Post, Or Not To Post, That Is The Question???

Originally Posted By: Speedy Beedumber than snot, it's YOU that doesn't understand. The 'Fraud is still a part of the leadership here and until this supposed new and approved BoD lock that bassturd out of this place, PM will not be taken seriously


Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: Speedy BeeSo..........if I understand correctly, technically, RedFRAUD is still here and a MOD? You new BOD's want to preach peace amongst us all here yet none of you have the balls to toss the 'frauds fat arse through the door?

So..........with the 'FRAUD still around, nothing has really changed. Some of you guys are pure azz kissers, but DAA and Cal Taylor.....maybe you 2 were always backroom big buds with that poseur

No........no changes as long as RedFRAUD still has the keys to the place. Please don't waste our time

Quote: I guess Redfrog is still a moderator but he hasn't even logged in here for months and he has no say about anything anymore. I kind of doubt we'll ever hear from him again, but if we do, he has zero say, about anything.


what part of this ^^^^ don't you understand? good grief.

Oh, another thing, is the Red Fraud and Mocksucker still involved with this site as we speak? Are they pulling the puppet stings? No way did these characters just hand the keys over to Skinney and his muscle brahs'

So..........if I understand correctly, technically, RedFRAUD is still here and a MOD? You new BOD's want to preach peace amongst us all here yet none of you have the balls to toss the 'frauds fat arse through the door?

So..........with the 'FRAUD still around, nothing has really changed. Some of you guys are pure azz kissers, but DAA and Cal Taylor.....maybe you 2 were always backroom big buds with that poseur

No........no changes as long as RedFRAUD still has the keys to the place. Please don't waste our time

Bee, sir, I am going to say this as respectfully as I can. I am not speaking for the BOD, but for myself.

I do not appreciate your insinuations nor your comments that are directed at me as member of the BOD.

I will answer your questions as directly and succinctly as I can. Red Frog and Jeff Mock have stepped down from their positions on the BOD. Out of respect for their contributions, whether you agree with them or not, we offer former directors the option to stay on as moderators. Red Frog chose to accept that option.

Moderators have NO unilateral powers to decide or institute anything. Directors do not have unilateral power. According to our by-laws we make decision by a vote. That includes the decision to ban members which is something that we as directors take very seriously.

I was not party to discussion about banning members until I came on as a director, so I cannot speak to the past. I have repeatedly stated that we will learn from the past, but we will not live in it.

I have repeatedly stated that it is the goal of the BOD to move PM forward. We have made changes to facilitate that. We have SEVEN directors. Moderators can bring things to the attention of the mods and the directors but it is the BOD that makes the decisions. James, Dave, Mark, Kerry, Stu, Troy and myself ALL have input to the BOD decisions and we all have a vote on those decisions.

You have repeatedly insulted current members of the BOD, myself included, with you comments about a** kissers, puppets and that Jeff and Red Frog are pulling our strings.

While I welcome differing opinions, your comments are intentionally inflammatory and add nothing to our goal.

You, and other former members are welcome to rejoin PM and help us to make this a great place for hunters. If you are not interested in that goal and those efforts, we wish you well, and we will let you walk off into the sunset to go wherever you will to do whatever you want, somewhere else.

I hope that I have made things clearer for you.
 
What moderators are too stupid to know is controversy actually helps keep people talking and coming back. Controversy is great. Nothing ruins a site like power tripping moderators. Seen it happen with the old speed channel forums, nascar forums and more recently the f150 forum site. Look unless it’s actual threats of violence or credible illegal activity DONT MODERATE IT!! Basically you will know it when you see it.

Agreed on the 24 hour forums. That is how to run a sight. Basically let it run itself. People have a personal ownership in the comments they make. It’s disrespectful to squash that.

Bring back catshooter and ackman? I think that was his name
 
I'm over at 24hr and controversy drives me away, I want to talk about shooting and hunting to learn and someone will start a great subject and someone like "BigStick" will jump in and it turns into 10 pages of verbal abuse and gender assassination. It isn't something I find interesting or brings me back, it just wants me to hit the exit button. Same on Doublegun, great posts would turn into a political debate mostly name calling, not interesting. I will say that it seems like Doublegun has finally gotten rid of some of the trouble makers. As far as personal ownership it seems it is more like internet anonymity lets people run off at the mouth knowing there are no consequences to their actions.

To get banned here you really have to run off the rails. The site has rules meant to keep this place a friendly place to go to talk about predator hunting, learn about predator hunting, not a place to get verbally abused because you asked a question that that was answered the day before or your way of hunting doesn't seem right to someone else..
 
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Originally Posted By: AWSI'm over at 24hr and controversy drives me away, I want to talk about shooting and hunting to learn and someone will start a great subject and someone like "BigStick" will jump in and it turns into 10 pages of verbal abuse and gender assassination. It isn't something I find interesting or brings me back, it just wants me to hit the exit button. Same on Doublegun, great posts would turn into a political debate mostly name calling, not interesting. I will say that it seems like Doublegun has finally gotten rid of some of the trouble makers. As far as personal ownership it seems it is more like internet anonymity lets people run off at the mouth knowing there are no consequences to their actions.

To get banned here you really have to run off the rails. The site has rules meant to keep this place a friendly place to go to talk about predator hunting, learn about predator hunting, not a place to get verbally abused because you asked a question that that was answered the day before or your way of hunting doesn't seem right to someone else..

I can't believe a mod on this site would trash another site in open forum. To say nothing about trashing a man that knows more about firearms than most of the members where he posts, lots and lots of members. He has a way of getting people's attention, and it produces traffic on that site. Traffic sells advertising space, that's why Rick tolerates it.

You can get banned there, but, not for the trivial crap that people were banned here for. Certain types of people have rather thin skin, those that do seldom do well in business, and sometimes that carries over into daily life, and to internet tolerance. When you write a post like that, it might be a good idea to wait an hour and reread it before posting. Almost everyone learns something every day of their lives. Added to read >> And some don't.
 
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Thin skinned??? Everybody is allowed to trash everybody on 24hr but don't trash Rick? Did you even read what you wrote?

Crybabying about criticism of somebody who invites dung talking is priceless.

If you go around looking for reasons to be appalled/hurt/offended you'll find it.

I hope Rick doesn't read your post. He will die of laughter at your soft skin.

He might even get you to fill out a "hurt feelings report".
 
Originally Posted By: Speedy BeeOriginally Posted By: borkonI feel it time to ban this "speedy_bee".
No doubt he will never contribute one [beeep] thing positive.
And please.... do not do the like/dislike thingy.

HA!!! Diving under the Mod's skirts and crying out to have someone banned, did you learn that from C Middleton? Regardless, your mindset plays right into the hands of RedFRAUD and he'll be glad to know that you are on his team

It's quite obvious you will never be a contributing member other then ridicule.
Be gone please.
 
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I've been here under this screen name for 18 years now. If my old brain remembers it right I was on for a few years before that, but lost my password and had to sign up under a new name to get back on. Not sure on that though. I don't post a lot, I go through phases with it. When I do I generally try to make what I feel is a worthwhile post, something that adds value. But I read a lot, and absorb a lot when I am not posting. I was here for most of the years when the drama was unfolding I suppose. I never cared to get involved with it. Mainly because then, as now, I don't like drama and would just as soon avoid it. Also I was not then, and never will be, a "player" in this field or industry.

What gets posted on this forum does not affect my "In Real Life" one bit. If I get tired of the BS and drama on this or any other forum, I step away for a while. And that is probably really good advice for any and everyone, about anything on the internet.

If someone does not like my content, they don't have to read it. For sure I am not going to cram my opinion down anyone's throat. If they think I am wrong, they are welcome to have that opinion, and voice it if they so wish. I appreciate hearing different viewpoints especially if stated respectfully. But generally I listen pretty well so I don't like hearing the same thing over, and over, and over again. If a particular idea has merit and validity then it will stand on its own. Belaboring it will not be required.

For years I have felt PM was going downhill and something needed to be done. It seems we have a group now wanting to do that. Excellent, I am glad to hear it. I respect them for the time and effort they have already put into it and their willingness to do it. That is what it takes. It is a long road ahead and many of us see it, realize it, and appreciate it. To expect perfection is not reality. There will be bumps in the road. That is a fact of life. I am a firm believer the only ones who do not make mistakes are the ones that don't do anything. So my full support is behind the current admin group to do as they see fit, moving things forward.

So that is where I stand. I've drug this dead cat around the lot long enough now so I'll cut it loose. Y'all play nice.
 
Originally Posted By: Speedy Bee what happened to you, borkon? could never shake off the beech slappin that the infamous Timmy A. gave you?

Yep, you nailed it
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