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#3322780 - 05/23/23 10:48 AM Re: Baiting [Re: hm1996]
wildflights Offline
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Registered: 01/10/16
Posts: 258
Loc: Washington Wet Side
Originally Posted By: hm1996
Would a solar powered fence charger be considered harassment?

Regards,
hm


I don't think so. A fence, electric or otherwise is a passive deterrent.

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#3322781 - 05/23/23 10:57 AM Re: Baiting [Re: wildflights]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 18008
Loc: S. Texas
Sounds reasonable.....but now....oh for a reasonable beaurocrat! wink

Regards,
hm
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#3322798 - 05/23/23 04:40 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9358
Loc: USA

Bear have more rights than we do.

I know this next post probably should be in the Reloading / Rifle / Scope section, but I just wanted to share with my Baiting buddies. Recently I purchased a new ATN 4k Pro digital scope, the 5-20x model in camo. I got it specifically to fit my Ruger American Predator 6mm Rem. Also it will fit the CZ 527 .17 Rem which I need to put back into action occasionally.

I plan to use this scope for coyotes next fall, thus a heads up for next coyote season. In the short term I have a southern hog hunt planned for the middle of June, so I have been load developing for that. I am using an 85 gr. Barnes TSX, but will switch to 55 gr. Blitz Kings for coyotes later. This evening I sighted in at 60 yards (my bait site range from the shack). Once sighted I fired two rounds. Then I moved the target back to a ranged 93 yards and went into the scope's Ballistic Calculator feature and entered 93 yards. The results are below. I am VERY happy. It just illustrates how good these scopes can be at a bait site, and more specifically if a guy operates more than one site where ranges are different.

The inner circle is 1 inch. Muzzle Velocity is 3118 fps.











The 6mm Remington and 55 gr. Sierra Blitz Kings just plum flattens coyotes. They can't hit the ground fast enough, so I am looking forward to using this outfit come Sept. Just thought I would share.



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#3322821 - 05/24/23 07:23 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 5302
Loc: NC
Looks like the pork and fur is in trouble 06, good luck on your June hunt.

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#3322830 - 05/24/23 12:45 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
Burnsome... Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/24/18
Posts: 1108
Loc: GA
Nice write up and great looking rig 6

Thanks for posting

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#3322833 - 05/24/23 01:45 PM Re: Baiting [Re: 6mm06]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 18008
Loc: S. Texas
Very impressive shooting/ballistic calculator, David. That scope looks like a good way to get into NV at a comparably low price point. Totally ignorant on the digital sights, looking forward to some videos and a report from your hunt!

Regards,
Clarence
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#3322838 - 05/24/23 05:43 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9358
Loc: USA

Clarence, I am amazed at the accuracy of the 4k Pro's ballistic calculator. Yesterday's sighting was done with the 6mm Remington and the 5-20x scope. Today I did the same with a different scope, the 3-14x model mounted on a Bergara bolt action .308. Results were the same. I sighted at 60 yards, then in menu told the scope to re-calibrate for 93 yards. Bingo. Same performance. The inner circle is 1".






In order for the ballistic calculator to work, certain variables have to be entered into the scope first, like bullet weight, ballistic coefficient of the bullet, velocity, scope height above bore and zero range. Once that is entered and saved, it's a simple matter to go into menu and reset the distance. The scope does the rest and positions the crosshair where it should be, so it's a dead on hold at any distance with no guess work as to trajectory of bullet hitting high or low. I love it. Granted i havenít tried it beyond 100 yards, but for 30 yards up to 100 itís right there.

Years ago I had the old X-Sight 2 scope mounted on an AR 6x45. I took that outfit on a hog hunt and put the ballistic calculator to use. It worked. The first night the guide had me sit in a ladder stand with a feeder at only 20 yards, set up for a bowhunter. I entered 20 yards and dropped a hog with a head shot. The following night I was in a different stand at 120 yards. I dropped two hogs with head shots with a dead on hold, no hold over or under. The 4k Pro scope is far superior to the X-Sight 2.

I used two rifles that night. The stainless is a Remington Sendero 7mm STW that took one hog during daylight hours, and the AR with the digital scope took the other two after dark.





Again, this isn't necessarily predator hunting, but the discussion is pertaining to the scope that will work great for bait site predator hunting.


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#3322856 - 05/25/23 09:12 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
coyote_thumper Offline
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Registered: 03/03/20
Posts: 113
Loc: WA
Nice sight-in work 06. Thanks for sharing. Yesterday I spent some time sighting in the Trail 2 thermal scope on a bolt 20 practical in preparation for some coyote calling this weekend.

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#3322869 - 05/25/23 05:06 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9358
Loc: USA

The 20 Practical has been alluring to me for a while.

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#3322893 - 05/26/23 04:34 PM Re: Baiting [Re: 6mm06]
spotstalkshoot Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2763
Loc: so.mn
I found when using the AR type scope(attaches to a rail) rather than the traditional scope/rings setup, the faster cartridges have a different trajectory arch. -.4-.6 low at 50 yards, +.5 high at 100 and 150, +.1-.2 at 200 yards. Good to about 240 yards before any drop adjustment. Last winter this was how I sighted in the 204R with the 40 BIB and the 20p with the 35 Berger. I'm leaving the thermal on the 20p for a prairie dog trip in June.

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#3322895 - 05/26/23 05:49 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9358
Loc: USA

That will be interesting. Never thought of thermal for prairie dogs.

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#3322902 - 05/26/23 08:40 PM Re: Baiting [Re: 6mm06]
spotstalkshoot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2763
Loc: so.mn
Probably just check zero on pd, will be on private ranch and they all have coyote hanging around. Ranchers expect you to shoot coyote.

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#3322930 - 05/27/23 02:24 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 5302
Loc: NC
Good luck on your trip spot, keep those ranchers happy!

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#3322986 - 05/29/23 09:15 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
pmack Offline
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Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 1824
Loc: NY
Season is closed in NY but my dog still has fun. Pretty good view of my setup with laneway and deer hair still visible in field. https://youtube.com/shorts/7cPiF2Sgck0?feature=share
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#3322990 - 05/29/23 10:56 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9358
Loc: USA

That was pretty neat, Paul. Did he just chase it a short ways and return? I forgot, what is the range to your bait?

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