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#3314358 - 02/15/23 10:41 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
wildflights Offline
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Registered: 01/10/16
Posts: 258
Loc: Washington Wet Side
Some cameras scare coyotes more than others. Primos were the worst I've had. The videos would show the coyote visibly noticing and reacting to the camera on startup. The LED's had a much brighter glow than my other models. Some cameras may make some shutter noise (IDK, light clicking is something I'd likely not hear). I don't have any experience with Spypoint to have an opinion on them. Do your videos show the coyotes having a reaction to the camera?

It looks like your bait site is relatively close in. I'd cut some shooting lanes to punch out a little further. Like spokes on a wheel.

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#3314359 - 02/15/23 10:45 AM Re: Baiting [Re: 6mm06]
weekender Offline
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Pmack, A possibility is mounting your camera higher, maybe 6' or so to get it where they aren't looking right at it.


Edited by weekender (02/16/23 10:09 AM)

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#3314368 - 02/15/23 12:09 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
pmack Offline
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Edited by pmack (03/07/23 12:52 PM)
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#3314369 - 02/15/23 12:18 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
pmack Offline
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Just moved camera to about 8 feet up in tree. Bait is not as close as you think it's 120 yards from house in small opening in woods. Need to check the glow from the Hosmart sensor. I'm going to move one of the carcasses out of camera and sensor range to see if they hit that.
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#3314445 - 02/16/23 10:03 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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pmack, I bought the Hosmart model that came with 4 sensors. Two of the sensors had lights when they tripped two did not.

I stayed at new camp Tuesday night and only a possum come. I went the other direction last night to try for more bait for still another spot and wouldn't you know it, coyotes showed not one but three times last night. I will keep trying till it happens again that our schedules match. I wish it was where I could stay multiple nights in a row but I am just too busy right now for that to happen.



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#3314449 - 02/16/23 01:08 PM Re: Baiting [Re: weekender]
pmack Offline
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Originally Posted By: weekender
pmack, I bought the Hosmart model that came with 4 sensors. Two of the sensors had lights when they tripped two did not.


Week I just blocked out the LED in my sensor. In the past my coyote visits were few and far between it was tough to pattern. I seldom get pics such as yours where they are just standing there. I'm hoping raising the camera and eliminating the sensor glow will put them more at ease.
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#3314478 - 02/16/23 10:20 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Playing the cat-n-mouse game seems pretty common with baiting. It’s purely a matter of being able to hunt the night the coyotes decide to return. Year before last I stayed 5 consecutive nights in the shack and got him on the 5th night.

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#3314503 - 02/17/23 10:14 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
pmack Offline
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David tonight is night 5 let's hope.
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#3314508 - 02/17/23 11:27 AM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Good luck with it, Paul.

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#3314515 - 02/17/23 01:09 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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I messed up last night at 11:30. I had downsized weapons to minimize noise (to neighbors) to a .22 mag. I shot the coyote a little forward from where I wanted per the video. I put my 1.5 yr old rescue Jack Russel on the tract about 30 mins after. She did great tracking the coyote with very minimal blood more than 400 yds. This was her first what I would call long tracks. She had been on a few short tracks of 50 yds or less with lots of blood, deer and hog. I only saw about 10 pin head size drops myself. Coyote went in a jungle of briars that was all but impossible to get through. I lost the clip out of my .22 mag somewhere in there. Didn't find the coyote, prolly not dead. Video will come later tonight.

There is good news though. Me and the pup left at 8:00 am and .....


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#3314540 - 02/17/23 03:47 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
wildflights Offline
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@weekender I'm all for following up on shot coyotes. I semi routinely use my Weimeriner for the job. He has taken the hit a couple of times in the thick stuff where I had to step into the fray and end it with the shotgun at "at the end of your boot" range. He's big enough that he's shaken off the couple of puncture wounds he's received and will go back for more.

I'd worry about the Jack Russel. I'm sure he's game but I leave my smaller pup in the house when it comes to blood trailing critters that bite back and can shake her.

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#3314555 - 02/17/23 06:18 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
6mm06 Offline
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Sorry to hear the bad news, Week but the good news is promising. Seems as though you and I both need to consider a suppressor. I would have had one already if not for all the red tape involved.

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#3314560 - 02/17/23 06:23 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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Thanks for the advice wf, noted. I hadn't really considered what would happen if the coyote wasn't dead when she found it.

Here is the video from last night. Let me know what you think about where the shot placement was. I told my wife I had it right in the boiler room and squeezed it off, that was before I came home and watched the video. Looked too far forward to me now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn8aA5c7Rww

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#3314570 - 02/17/23 07:46 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
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No, I don't think you hit the coyote too far forward. Looked to be about perfect to me. What was your range and what bullet were you shooting in the 22 mag. You have a dead coyote somewhere there.
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#3314575 - 02/17/23 08:51 PM Re: Baiting [Re: Cougar Jim]
weekender Offline
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Thanks for looking DU. 100 yds Remington 33 gr Accutip. Same round I shot the 150# boar with that the coyote was feeding on. I shoot them because they are the most accurate in my gun from any I have tried. I wanted to look some more this morning but it was raining pretty good so I didn't. The last place I saw blood was about 400 yds from where I shot it.
I have killed a few coyotes with the 33s but they were with a glass scope and I head or neck shot them.


Edited by weekender (02/17/23 09:06 PM)

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