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#3312124 - 01/24/23 06:14 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Infidel 762]
Kirsch Offline
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Registered: 10/13/09
Posts: 3715
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Infidel 762
you got some good stuff Korey. appears you dont hunt like the mainstream facebook crowd who stand in an open field and shoot off a tripod.
I will mention later why I sit vs stand. A coyote's eyesight is hampered at night but they gather approximately 7x the amount of light compared to human eyes. Good daytime practices of hiding your truck, limiting movement, having a backdrop, etc still are a good idea. Just because a person can get away with more at night, it is still a good practice to limit it as much as possible. On dark nights with no snow could a person stand in the middle of a field and probably not be spotted. Yes, but probably and on brighter nights a person most likely will. My practices work on any night.

Originally Posted By: Infidel 762
appears you setup more traditional in that i thought heard you say before that your sets are made mostly sitting down. how do you lug in all the extra gear, mainly a tripod?

its bad enough carry the stuff in, but then you add 3 or 4 coyotes you burn a lot of energy just getting back to the truck
Thanks for watching. I have always contemplated doing a video reviewing my entire setup including my chest rig, how I carry items, how my tripod is set up, etc.

Here is a list as a general overview of what I do:
1) I put my Beard Buster Chair over my right shoulder. What I like about this chair is it weighs almost nothing, protects me from the cold of the ground, while providing a bit of back support. It does not swivel, but I want to be very mobile, so this is a nice compromise. When this seat is opened up, it comes with a carrying strap and the chair folds together, so it is flat.

2) I then put my gun over the same shoulder. The seat folds flat so my run rests against the seat. The chair serves as a cushion and keeps any pointy items from the gun from digging into my back.

3) I also wear a chest rig which holds my TX1000 FoxPro remote, thermal scanner, scanner selfie stick, Coyote drag, Extra clip, a mouth call, an IR light flashlight, and extra batteries. I have a Princeton Tec Charge white/red light on my harness for emergencies as well.

4) I use the Foxpro X24. The stand that is a part of the call also serves as a handle. I love how light it is and how easy it is to carry. I hold that in my right hand.

5) I have my Night Stalker Pro in my left hand. I equip my NightStalker with a Tripod King Attachment which keep all 3 legs together, and I have a handle on one leg to make it easier to hold. In addition, on my tripod, I have a shelf installed. This weighs nothing but allows me to set items such as my scanner or PVS14/helmet or other things and it keeps things out of the snow/dirt. Last but not least, I have an E-caller Remote Holder.

You are correct that I sit 98% of the time. The exception is if I can stand behind a round bail or if the cover is too high that I have to stand to see over it. Sitting is more comfortable and easier on my body, provides a more stable shooting platform, and is warmer. I totally understand standing allows scanning 360° easier but there are pros and cons to each.

Very long answer but getting to the question. What do I do to drag out coyotes. I carry a drag that I made that has clips on it. If I am dragging out one or two, I put the X24 and tripod both in my left hand and then put the drag over my right shoulder along with the gun and chair. If I am dragging out more than two, I made a fur sled out of an old hard plastic toboggan. I take everything back to the truck, grab the sled and clip my drag to the sled. I can pull 4-5 coyotes at a time with that if there is snow on the ground.

I have tweaked this setup many times and am always looking for improvements. This works for me and is hard to explain in text form so will work on a video at some point. Some may have very different needs but hopefully some of these ideas may help some.
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#3312353 - 01/26/23 10:19 AM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Kirsch]
Infidel 762 Online
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Registered: 04/04/14
Posts: 7174
Loc: Okie
Originally Posted By: Kirsch
Originally Posted By: Infidel 762
you got some good stuff Korey. appears you dont hunt like the mainstream facebook crowd who stand in an open field and shoot off a tripod.
I will mention later why I sit vs stand. A coyote's eyesight is hampered at night but they gather approximately 7x the amount of light compared to human eyes. Good daytime practices of hiding your truck, limiting movement, having a backdrop, etc still are a good idea. Just because a person can get away with more at night, it is still a good practice to limit it as much as possible. On dark nights with no snow could a person stand in the middle of a field and probably not be spotted. Yes, but probably and on brighter nights a person most likely will. My practices work on any night.

Originally Posted By: Infidel 762
appears you setup more traditional in that i thought heard you say before that your sets are made mostly sitting down. how do you lug in all the extra gear, mainly a tripod?

its bad enough carry the stuff in, but then you add 3 or 4 coyotes you burn a lot of energy just getting back to the truck
Thanks for watching. I have always contemplated doing a video reviewing my entire setup including my chest rig, how I carry items, how my tripod is set up, etc.

Here is a list as a general overview of what I do:
1) I put my Beard Buster Chair over my right shoulder. What I like about this chair is it weighs almost nothing, protects me from the cold of the ground, while providing a bit of back support. It does not swivel, but I want to be very mobile, so this is a nice compromise. When this seat is opened up, it comes with a carrying strap and the chair folds together, so it is flat.

2) I then put my gun over the same shoulder. The seat folds flat so my run rests against the seat. The chair serves as a cushion and keeps any pointy items from the gun from digging into my back.

3) I also wear a chest rig which holds my TX1000 FoxPro remote, thermal scanner, scanner selfie stick, Coyote drag, Extra clip, a mouth call, an IR light flashlight, and extra batteries. I have a Princeton Tec Charge white/red light on my harness for emergencies as well.

4) I use the Foxpro X24. The stand that is a part of the call also serves as a handle. I love how light it is and how easy it is to carry. I hold that in my right hand.

5) I have my Night Stalker Pro in my left hand. I equip my NightStalker with a Tripod King Attachment which keep all 3 legs together, and I have a handle on one leg to make it easier to hold. In addition, on my tripod, I have a shelf installed. This weighs nothing but allows me to set items such as my scanner or PVS14/helmet or other things and it keeps things out of the snow/dirt. Last but not least, I have an E-caller Remote Holder.

You are correct that I sit 98% of the time. The exception is if I can stand behind a round bail or if the cover is too high that I have to stand to see over it. Sitting is more comfortable and easier on my body, provides a more stable shooting platform, and is warmer. I totally understand standing allows scanning 360° easier but there are pros and cons to each.

Very long answer but getting to the question. What do I do to drag out coyotes. I carry a drag that I made that has clips on it. If I am dragging out one or two, I put the X24 and tripod both in my left hand and then put the drag over my right shoulder along with the gun and chair. If I am dragging out more than two, I made a fur sled out of an old hard plastic toboggan. I take everything back to the truck, grab the sled and clip my drag to the sled. I can pull 4-5 coyotes at a time with that if there is snow on the ground.

I have tweaked this setup many times and am always looking for improvements. This works for me and is hard to explain in text form so will work on a video at some point. Some may have very different needs but hopefully some of these ideas may help some.


thanks for taking the time to fill in all the detail.

If my memory serves me correctly. a few years ago when you first started posting you videos someone commented that it looked like you were aiming low. i started re-watching some of my shots and it always looks like i am aiming low. i have took note and been making a conscience effort when i shoot to not aim low but when i replay them it still looks like i keep aiming low. there is no way you could have parallax in thermal? did you have this issue before?

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#3312366 - 01/26/23 03:11 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Kirsch]
Kirsch Offline
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Registered: 10/13/09
Posts: 3715
Loc: USA
No, shouldn't be parallax in a thermal. There are some thermals with lag. Test this by having someone stand in front of the scope (not mounted on a gun or for sure not loaded) and have them clap above their head. If the clap happens when you hear it, there shouldn't be any lag. Apparently, there are some scopes that lag. My scopes do not do this, so this is not the situation with my aiming.

Dead is dead. I aim where I aim, and it works for me. My brain adjusts the shot for me after 30+ years of shooting coyotes. The goal is to hold right on the thermal spot by the shoulder (it's actually behind it as a coyote's shoulder angles in) when 50-80 yards, just slightly low 90-200, straight on again from 225-275, upper third from 275-300, top edge at 300-350. Hold at the ears from 375-450. This works for me. How do I know how far without a rangefinder? Lots of time behind the scope and verifying distances after. Since most of my shots are 100-150, aiming a little below center makes sense. I don't miss many coyotes and I rarely lose one, so it works for me.
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#3312577 - 01/28/23 10:25 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Kirsch]
Tf282 Offline
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Registered: 09/04/21
Posts: 65
Loc: So. Idaho
Do you shoot suppressed?
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Turning coyotes into jigsaw puzzles with every trigger pull.

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#3312578 - 01/28/23 10:40 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Tf282]
Kirsch Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/13/09
Posts: 3715
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Tf282
Do you shoot suppressed?
Yes. 22-250 with a Banish 30 suppressor from Silencer Central.
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#3312580 - 01/28/23 11:05 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Kirsch]
6mm06 Offline
PM senior

Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 9256
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Kirsch
I have always contemplated doing a video reviewing my entire setup including my chest rig, how I carry items, how my tripod is set up, etc.

That would be very interesting to see.

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#3312658 - 01/29/23 09:14 PM Re: Hitting For The Cycle: KC Ep.67 [Re: Kirsch]
Jerryrigged Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/25/21
Posts: 119
Loc: NE Ohio
As to the sled for dragging them, I used to carry one of the kid's plastic roll up sleds in my pack when deer hunting. One of the ones made from similar plastic as the 3 ring school notebooks. Ends up being about 2 1/2" diameter & maybe 16" long.

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