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#3310021 - 01/03/23 10:31 AM One caliber for all? is it possible?
champ198 Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Sullivan, Missouri
Just wondering if you all might have a AR platform caliber that would be good for Yotes, fox and Bobcat.
Yote wise not really concerned about saving hides but Fox and Cats I would want to save.
Is there one caliber that would do well for all that I could build an Upper for the AR i already have.

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#3310022 - 01/03/23 10:34 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Do you reload?
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#3310023 - 01/03/23 10:34 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Double tap!


Edited by crapshoot (01/03/23 10:34 AM)
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I carry a gun because a cop is to heavy.

Average response time for a 911 call is 10 min.
Average response time for a .45acp is 900FPS.

Remember, if you're not pissing off a liberal......You are one!
Ted Nugent

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#3310024 - 01/03/23 10:40 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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6X6.8 if you reload. 22 Nosler if you don't.

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#3310028 - 01/03/23 10:55 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
champ198 Offline
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Loc: Sullivan, Missouri
I do reload yes. Not the best at it as I am still learning but have all of the equiptment to reload.

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#3310037 - 01/03/23 12:21 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2707
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: champ198
Just wondering if you all might have a AR platform caliber that would be good for Yotes, fox and Bobcat.
Yote wise not really concerned about saving hides but Fox and Cats I would want to save.
Is there one caliber that would do well for all that I could build an Upper for the AR i already have.


I'd probably look at building a 6x45 aka standard 223 necked up to 6mm. It's a pretty popular cartridge and a number of different places have/make prefit AR barrels chambered in 6x45.

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#3310042 - 01/03/23 01:02 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: B23]
spotstalkshoot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2647
Loc: so.mn
You really need to drop caliber and bullet weight to save cat and fox hides. Like NO exit.

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#3310043 - 01/03/23 01:50 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3436
Loc: Buffalo, MN
I've been really impressed by the 65 SGk from 223 on fox. I've got them loaded with CFE223 as strong as I dare, it would be a good deer round as far as 223 goes as well.

I havent shot any cats but all the fox hits I've made i have to search around for the exit, except one bad leg shot on a spinning fox, same for coyote.

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#3310051 - 01/03/23 03:13 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Registered: 01/04/15
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Loc: Southwest Virginia, USA
Since your priority is fox and bobcat pelts, 17 Remington?
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#3310083 - 01/03/23 08:54 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
jsh Offline
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Registered: 11/22/03
Posts: 331
Loc: Kansas U.S. of A
20 practical?

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#3310110 - 01/04/23 12:12 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Registered: 08/27/09
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Loc: West
223 Remington with copper solid bullets. 45gr Barnes TSX performs excellent on everything, you'll get 100% pass throughs but small exits. I messed around briefly with 50gr TTSX but never got a good sample on predators. I bet similarly light bullets from Hammer will do as well.

Bang flop DRT on this big ol' fat coyote. 45gr TSX.


Same with these greys. Bang Flop DRT with 22cal exits.
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#3310119 - 01/04/23 08:12 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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17 Remington, 20 practical,
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I carry a gun because a cop is to heavy.

Average response time for a 911 call is 10 min.
Average response time for a .45acp is 900FPS.

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Ted Nugent

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#3310128 - 01/04/23 10:49 AM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: DiRTY DOG]
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Originally Posted By: DiRTY DOG
223 Remington with copper solid bullets. 45gr Barnes TSX performs excellent on everything, you'll get 100% pass throughs but small exits. I messed around briefly with 50gr TTSX but never got a good sample on predators. I bet similarly light bullets from Hammer will do as well.

Bang flop DRT on this big ol' fat coyote. 45gr TSX.

Same with these greys. Bang Flop DRT with 22cal exits.


.223 rounds mostly just bounce off coyotes. i have read that more than once on the ole www. must be true lol
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#3310177 - 01/04/23 08:03 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Registered: 12/29/11
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Loc: Buffalo, MN
I've seen vmax bounce off angled coyote shoulder bones! I've never seen the SGK do anything other than smash through anything a coyote has.

Dirty dog, it's good to hear about the TSXs. I worked up a hot HBN lubed 53gr TSX load for the 223 and lab radars them at 3330fps. Accuracy is great also, I was hoping I liked them on fox and coyote at least as much as the 65SGK but I didnt know what to expect fur wise in the TSX .

I've been slacking big time in the coyote hunting department, I moved onto my own land now but I get so much snow, woods, outdoors and cold now just chopping wood and keeping the 800ft driveway clear I havent even taken some of my new loads hunting yet.

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#3310198 - 01/04/23 10:21 PM Re: One caliber for all? is it possible? [Re: champ198]
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Registered: 02/06/15
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Loc: IA
For that trifecta of fur, hard to beat the good ole .223. I've killed a lot of coyotes with the .223, and that's all I take with me for red fox. No cat opportunities for me. I have to travel for that, so no personal experience on them.
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