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#3297900 - 04/16/22 06:45 PM Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr
pbeaudet Offline
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Registered: 02/24/20
Posts: 13
Loc: Burney CA United States

How effective is the 17 hmr on Prairie dogs? This will be my first trip to Wyoming to shoot the. Until this year, all my shooting has been on Belding ground squirrels.

#3297901 - 04/16/22 07:47 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
204 AR Offline
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Registered: 01/31/10
Posts: 6197
Loc: Nebraska
It works fine until you get past maybe 150 or so, 200 in a pinch imo. Think of your beldings like a pdog pup, with adults probably triple the mass. If you're coming out when the pups are everywhere and dumb, the hmr is perfect for that. Late in the summer, it might be pretty limited. However, I do consider it an essential part of a pdog arsenal.
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#3297921 - 04/17/22 12:32 AM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
pbeaudet Offline
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Registered: 02/24/20
Posts: 13
Loc: Burney CA United States
Thank you!

#3297981 - 04/18/22 12:14 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
Al Hansen Offline
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Registered: 11/27/17
Posts: 137
Loc: Utah
17 HMR is a great little round for P dogs with some limitations like mentioned above . Distance and wind. Play with your rifle a bit . Choose the most accurate make of the round for your rifle and I recommend torqueing the stock down to find the sweet spot. All the Savages in our shooting group has been 12.5 pounds of torque on the action screws and it really was a noticeable difference. Have fun.
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#3297989 - 04/18/22 02:35 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 6395
Loc: Southwest Idaho
The .17 Hummer was still a pretty new cartridge when I first tired it on the pasture poodles. My hunting partner had bought one of those cheap H&R single shots in that caliber and had an equally cheap 3x9 scope mounted on it. Anyway he offered it to me to try and so sure..why not? I leveled on a critter about 100-110 years out and hoped for the best. Look, I was astonished when I saw guts blow out of him. I never would have thought that little round had that kind of ability. It was not long before I bought my own .17 HMR (a Ruger 77/17) and never has there been a PD shoot that I have gone on where that round did not come along. If all your shots are never more than 150 yards or so it is just about as perfect a round as can be in my opinion. thumbup1
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#3298091 - 04/20/22 06:48 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
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Registered: 03/22/02
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Loc: Henderson,Nevada,USA
My single shot hmr out shot 2 rugers repeatedly. It's now trimmed to 16" and wears a can and has killed a lot of vermin. Still fun as [beeep] to shoot.
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#3298440 - 04/28/22 11:35 AM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
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Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 5268
Loc: Kansas
It was my favorite PD rifle till I got a suppressor. It's quiet enough to not send them all back under ground every time you fire at one inside 200 yards.
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#3298858 - 05/06/22 07:53 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
psdan000 Offline
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Registered: 10/11/08
Posts: 975
Loc: SW Ohio
It's perfect inside of 150 yards. If you have a windy day you might as well leave it at home though. Definitely wouldn't take it as my "primary" rifle but it sure is fun if the conditions are right. Shot a lot of them with the HMR when I lived in Montana but my all time favorite for prairie dogs is the .204 ruger.

#3298941 - 05/09/22 02:42 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
muskrat30 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 3138
Loc: Wisconsin
One year we took 2 17 HMRs west for dogging, mid June with little ones around. I decided to just stick with my 223’s, simple. Yes we had shots at 100 yards & some under. I do like the 17 HMR for pest control, inside of 50 yards I like them very much.

#3298982 - 05/10/22 12:54 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
Plant.One Offline
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Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 4978
Loc: Oakland County, MI
just for clarification - the main reason folks are saying 150yds and under for the cartridge, aside from wind drift, is based on its MV and the terminal performance designs of the vmax bullets the cartridge primarily uses.

vmax are only engineered to expand dramatically at >1600 fps. the closer you get to there, the less... spectacular... the impact result is.

based on the MV and BC of a typical rifle/bullet combo for the HMR, somewhere just shy of 150 yds is when the bullet falls below that velocity threshold, therefore often turning it into the proverbial ice-pick, barring it doesnt make contact with something relatively substantial (bone) during its travels thru the furcoated meat sacks we're throwing it at.

at 100-125 yds... impacts are usually spectacularly impressive. at 150-175... usually quite lackluster on the terminal performance department.

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#3300012 - 06/08/22 07:57 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
Acronin Offline
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Registered: 03/01/13
Posts: 896
Loc: NE
My experience is much like 204AR's.

My longest shot (and it was mortared in with the first two shots) is 308yds. That bullet went through a pup without expanding. I think the velocity at that point would be too slow to expand even the minute 17gr Vmax.

However, to echo 204AR's comments, when you have high volume shooting inside of 150yds with uneducated pups there really isn't anything better and more cost efficient. You won't get the high back flips and the massive explosions like you would with a centerfire, but you do get them dead.

I've always said that they would be perfect with a supressor, because the report of the rifle is very minimal.
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#3300509 - 06/24/22 11:28 PM Re: Prairie Dogs Vs 17 hmr [Re: pbeaudet]
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Registered: 01/20/20
Posts: 93
Loc: Minnesota
I’ve had great luck with the 17 hmr. They seem to not scare the pd from the mild report. I’ve shot out to 300yds with plenty of kills. That was about the end of the bullets effective range in my opinion. 200yds or less was super fun. My rifle had a scope with mildots so I could adjust for hold over and wind. Out of all the pd hunting if done the 17 hunts were my favorite.


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