Deciding to switch from .223 to .308, .223 will grenade a yote but offers no knockdown power. Thinking I'm going to run 20"+ target barrels on AR-10s and keep the AR-15 barrels short. The more domesticated these things become the bigger they get.

What good is a 20" barrel on a 2.23? Deciding whether or not to keep it. I want to see what lengths guys are running for .223/5.56 and .308 respectively. Think I will convert to target builds on AR-10s and keep the AR-15s practical

If anyone has an R15 handguard, I might be interested

What bullet are you shooting? I have no problems with 55 gr SPs. A lot of options with more knockdown without going to a 308.

55gr Remington UMC softpoint, I've had better luck with a properly placed .17 HMR. Must be something in the water

I have a RRA TRO 14.5" hand guard if interested.

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It has never crossed my mind one time that .223 Rem could not kill a Coyote effectively.

My thinking would be to change bullet types.

I have ended up having to track every single yote I have shot with a .223, these are shoulder, stomach, and hind leg shots. I have seen them run with their intestines dragging behind them, and my partners and I can only boil it down to the areas we hunt must be somewhat trafficked by other hunters, and the yotes are familiar with the sound of a gunshot; adrenaline kicks in and they are gone. My partner shot a coon with a .223 and we had to track for a half a mile. Finishing it with a .45 to the head was satisfying.

.223 is feeling more and more like a peashooter to me. It certainly will kill a coyote, but it has no knockdown power. I'm looking for something to coyotes what a .223 is to rabbits

I'd just build an upper in 6.8 SPC vs. the weight/cost of the large frames.

I have six large frame AR rifles 16, 18, and 24 all in .308... I don't take them coyote hunting as my 6.8 is a DRT rifle using 120gr SST bullets.

I guarantee you the Speer 70gr Semi-Spitzer will solve your run-off problems if you stay with .223.

Check this video out... three DRT'S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmKMxWuUdw

Sweet video. I think my issue with .223 might come from the grain

these 223 wont kill a 25 pound coyote threads are always good for some laughs.

Long time no see Snot I see you are still active

aim for the face,or just stick with your 17 HMR if that works better for you.

Shoulder, guts, legs, it isn't the 223 that is the problem.

If they hear the gunshot, you missed.

Coyote aren't very tough if you shoot them where you are suppose to with a decent bullet, they are tougher than [beeep] if you use the wrong bullet or shoot the fringes.

I have no problems with a 222 Rem and a decent bullet.

I've shot all 11 of my coyotes with a .223 55 Grain V-Max. I did have one that ran off that I couldn't find but I believe I had poor shot placement on that one. The rest were DRT.

Casey